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Jun 17th 2017, 01:41 PM   #16
  Feb 2016

The FS is spot on.
Jun 19th 2017, 08:45 AM   #17
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2019 Nada
FUel -
Jun 21st 2017, 08:09 PM   #18
  Feb 2016

Made it through FS 25....just a few snow patches ;-)

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Jun 22nd 2017, 08:34 AM   #19
 FeralRdr's Avatar
  Jan 2016
  The Rider's Seat

Impressive instrument for an impressive ride Jerry.

Having said that....

You have to make it all the way to Windy Ridge (before anyone else) for you to claim it as your mountain.
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Jun 22nd 2017, 03:40 PM   #20
  Feb 2016

Tried...pretty solid at mile marker 3.

Jun 22nd 2017, 03:47 PM   #21
 FeralRdr's Avatar
  Jan 2016
  The Rider's Seat

Well, it may not be Your Mountain.... Yet.

But at least 25 is your road. Hell, we'll even throw in that mile marker in the picture by your bike.
Jun 22nd 2017, 09:07 PM   #22
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  Jan 2016

  '15 KLZ1000, '03 SV650S
Hoping the mini heat-wave we have this weekend will open things up a little.
Jul 10th 2017, 11:58 AM   #23
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  Jan 2016

  '15 KLZ1000, '03 SV650S
As of last week, FR 25 is open!
Jul 24th 2017, 06:30 PM   #24
 FeralRdr's Avatar
  Jan 2016
  The Rider's Seat

Quoth the Bucket: "Never More"... Hello Imgur

I've posted this info before on the old forum, and seeing as how the information is often requested, I thought I'd move it over here. My main reason for doing so is to address some of the most common concerns of street riders, and in particular, those with smaller fuel tanks. A few notes to help folks understand the info.


There is fuel available in Cougar(A), Carson(C), Trout Lake(F), Randle(E), and the Eagle Cliff Store(B). Fuel at Eagle cliff is typically upwards of $5.50 (Ethanol Free Premium only), so be advised that it can be quite a bit more expensive as compared to the perimeter fuel stations above.

The Roads:

The roads mapped are the most common routes that we take to many of the destinations in the Gifford-Pinchot area, or when traveling through it. I don't imply that these are the only roads out in this vicinity, but these are the predominately paved 2 lane roads in the area. Other paved roads eventually turn to single lanes with pull outs, or turn entirely to gravel. Some of the roads that are mapped (FS-90/23) do have gravel sections on them, but they are relatively short. Along with the gravel sections, some of the roads have seen better days. There have already been plenty of posts concerning the condition of the pavement on FS-25 and FS-99, but be advised that FS-90/23 has some real sketchy pavement in spots also. In particular is a series of deep hidden dips that have been known to take down bikes moving at speed. It is for these reasons that when traveling on FS-25 or FS-90/23 between Eagle Cliff and Trout Lake, a certain level of caution should be exercised until you are at the least familiar with the road and where the most dangerous road conditions are.

A - B = FS-90

B - E = FS-25

d - D = FS-99

B - F = FS-90/FS-23

B - C = FS-90/Curley Creek Rd./Wind River Rd

Mileage Ranges for riding the Gifford Pinchot NF Area:

Cougar(A) > Carson(C): 53 miles

Cougar(A) > Windy Ridge(D) > Randle(E): 100 miles.

Cougar(A) > Windy Ridge(D) > Cougar(A): 120 miles.

Cougar(A) > Windy Ridge(D) > Carson(C): 140 miles.

Cougar(A) > Windy Ridge(D) > Trout Lake(F): 155 miles.

Cougar(A) > Trout Lake(F): 70 miles.

Carson(C) > Trout Lake(F): 77 miles.

Randle(E) > Trout Lake(F): 96 miles.

Randle(E) > Windy Ridge(D) > Carson(C): 111 miles.

Randle(E) > FS-99/25 Rd Jct(d): 20 miles.

FS-99/25 Rd Jct(d) > Windy Ridge(D): 17 miles (34 miles round trip).

Eagle Cliff Store(B) > Cougar(A): 19 miles.

Eagle Cliff Store(B) > Carson(C): 34 miles.

Eagle Cliff Store(B) > Windy Ridge(D): 42 miles.

Eagle Cliff Store(B) > Windy Ridge(D) > Randle(E): 78 miles.

Eagle Cliff Store(B) > Randle(E): 46 miles.

Eagle Cliff Store(B) > Trout Lake(F): 50 miles.

Current Conditions: Gifford Pinchot N.F. Recreation Conditions (Trails, Campgrounds, Roads)

Update: Photobucket sent the "No-Moregram" so I moved the photo to Imgur and updated the link.

Jul 13th 2018, 10:34 AM   #25
 FeralRdr's Avatar
  Jan 2016
  The Rider's Seat

A Quick Update

Currently (7/13/2018), there is a Travel Advisory for FS-90 in the vicinity of Crab Creek (where FS-90 crosses the Lewis River near Lower Falls Campground, just past the western most gravel section).

Travel Advisory: FR 90 Slide & Damage

Date(s): Jul 3, 2018

Due to a slide, part of Forest Road 90 near Crab Creek is now accessible for high clearance vehicles only! If you are coming from the south and headed to Lower Falls or other sites along FR 90, please travel instead through Trout Lake to Forest Road 23 and west on Forest Road 90.
Oldmanriver and myself, just ran out there to check out the damage, and didn't see anything out of the ordinary. Our suspicion, was that there was fresh damage in the western most gravel section, but other than a fresh layer of thick gravel (which did a marvelous job of causing our front tires to shift and slip around ) the road was in OK shape.

We didn't go past Lower Falls, so I can't give an update for the rest of that route. I might head out that way in a few weeks or so, and will report back if I do.

FS-25 and 99 are now both open. I've ridden 25 both directions, and will just say that the damage that was there last year, is still present. In some cases a little worse, but in general still the same experience as years past. I haven't been up 99 yet, but I've been told that the new gravel stretches in the Eastbound lane are still there with the inevitable smattering of gravel being thrown out into the oncoming lane (Westbound).
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Jun 1st 2019, 10:31 AM   #26
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  Jan 2016
  The Rider's Seat

FS-25, FS-90, and FS-23 Now Open 1 Jun 2019

I wish I new about this yesterday, I would have a least come home from Tex's Chinook Pass Run via FS-25, as well as maybe Skate Creek Rd.

5/28/2019: Rd. 90 is open. Driving Rd. 90 to Lower Falls coming in from the West is not recommended for RV's over 20 ft. or trailers. Be forewarned the road is in rough condition with many potholes, coming in from the East of Lower Falls, drive trailers/RV's at your own risk.
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Jun 1st 2019, 05:49 PM   #27
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  Apr 2016
  Des Moines, WA

  ...1987 Yamaha FZR1000...
Very nice! Save some curves for me. I'll drop down that way sometime in late June/early July; I'll nail down the date soon.

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