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Akdawg Feb 18th 2019 02:40 AM

Legislative Update
 
This Saturday 2/23 ABATE of Washington will be having a legislative update with question and answer session at Owens HD in Yakima 11am to 2pm. ABATE is running 6 bills this year including, weight fee, motorcycle parking, lane splitting, profiling, helmet choice & vulnerable users.
All are welcome and encouraged to show up

uhoh Feb 18th 2019 12:26 PM

Thanks for the heads - up. A question and observation:

1) Who is going to present at the meeting? Will it be a motorcyclist ABATE member, or a legislator / legislative aid?

2) Below is how the TriCity Herald newspaper reported on the "Helmet Choices" bill, as you call it. A page 1 story on a Sunday.
Now isn't this right? --> the bill attempts to sneak in mandatory liability insurance for motorcycles by hiding it inside a freedom bill.


http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...psc2qowjkt.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...psihsigskf.jpg


Liability insurance covers others whom you hit / injury if they aren't on the bike.
Insurance biggee State Farm does not offer rider injury protection policies, I've checked.
Injury protection coverage for helmet-less riders apparently isn't the subject of the proposed bill.

Seems: Bait and Switch - your ABATE organization needs to remove this liability insurance requirement from the proposed bill..
Correct me if I'm wrong.

WarpShatner7 Feb 18th 2019 02:01 PM

Helmetless riding is a public safety hazard: brains on the pavement are even slipperier than wet leaves.

Bald Guy Feb 18th 2019 04:19 PM

HB 1014 takes care of the insurance issue with motorcyclist.


https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?B...19&initiative=

SXVINWA Feb 18th 2019 08:29 PM

Law or no law, I’ll always ride with a helmet. I’ve taken rocks to the shield that were kicked up by oncoming traffic and witnessed Devin getting his shield broken due to bird impact. Many such situations without a helmet would have very different outcomes, which could easily include ending up in the oncoming lane.

Akdawg Feb 19th 2019 07:16 AM

HB1014 was authored by Rep Jenkin of the 16th District, Benton, Walla Walla, Columbia counties. As he told me it was presented as a result of motorcyclists being at fault for accidents and being uninsured. Washington is the only state, as I understand it, that doesn't require insurance on motorcycles. This has nothing to do with the helmet choice bill, HB1125. The helmet choice bill is choice only, if you would choose to ride without one you would be required to carry medical insurance to cover your medical expenses. This bill also has a sunset...3yrs, extension of the bill will be determined by study done to determine if fatalities increase or decrease.
As to the Owens thing, that will done by members of ABATE presenting the status of the bills currently before the legislature.
If you have issues with mandatory insurance for motorcycles you need to get a move on. It has already passed the House and is now in the Senate, so contact your Senator if you don't want (or do) the bill to pass.

Rainman Feb 19th 2019 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akdawg (Post 53655)
... This has nothing to do with the helmet choice bill, HB1125. ...

Sorry, HB1125 has to do with limiting the number of retail licenses for MJ sales.

WarpShatner7 Feb 19th 2019 08:39 AM

The bill itself consists of small language changes mostly to specify that the rules set out apply to those under the age of 21.

Wish they could throw something in to the effect of accepting ECE certification, not just DOT. You can pick nits about which certification is better in which detail, but both meet the goal of getting useless helmets off the street, and all ECE helmet models are independently tested by a third party, a process that's much more thorough than DOT's.

Akdawg Feb 19th 2019 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainman (Post 53657)
Sorry, HB1125 has to do with limiting the number of retail licenses for MJ sales.

I just checked the legislature web site, HB1125 is the helmet choice bill

WarpShatner7 Feb 19th 2019 11:31 AM

Indeed, what comes up in a google search may not be the results for the current legislative session. Here's what you want:

https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?B...1125&Year=2019.

What I linked above is the Senate version (presumably identical at this point).

Sentinel Feb 19th 2019 02:30 PM

you know, we are already required to have "health" insurance that pays for doctors visits etc why do we have to have separate insurance that.....pays for doctors visits etc?

Sentinel Feb 19th 2019 02:30 PM

i note that ABATE is holding their thingy in Yakawalla and not in Seattle.

demographics discussion, anyone?

Ryanthegreat1 Feb 19th 2019 03:55 PM

Is this the shock and awe bill to make the lane splitting bill look sane?

Bald Guy Feb 19th 2019 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentinel (Post 53672)
you know, we are already required to have "health" insurance that pays for doctors visits etc why do we have to have separate insurance that.....pays for doctors visits etc?

I don't see where medical coverage is required in the bill, only liability. Am I missing something? After all I am old and slightly confused....

VeritasImageryNW Feb 19th 2019 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentinel (Post 53672)
you know, we are already required to have "health" insurance that pays for doctors visits etc why do we have to have separate insurance that.....pays for doctors visits etc?

There is no longer a federal health insurance mandate. That was eliminated very early in the current administration's tenure.


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