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Apr 27th 2016, 09:54 PM   #1
 Burphel's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Travelling around the NW

  Triumph Bonnezillah, Ninjette
Track dabbler: slicks or no?

Ok, so I finally got my Bonnie back up and running for street use, and I'm planning on using my SV as a dedicated track bike. Right now I'm on the slow end of the intermediate group (1:34 at Portland, 2:28 at the Ridge). Currently running Q3s that have plenty of depth left. I don't have or plan on picking up warmers. I won't be racing. Maybe next year .

So should I or shouldn't I go with slicks? Any particular brand/model/whatever that'd work better for what I'm doing? Am I better off getting somebody's take-offs? Or should I just stick with what I know?
Apr 27th 2016, 10:35 PM   #2
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

If you're happy with them I'd stick with the Q3's. They should have enough grip at your pace and they are easy to get and relatively inexpensive. I ran Rosso II's on my ZX10 all summer of 2014 on the street AND every OPRT track day of 2015 except the last one at Pacific. The Q3's stick a lot more the the Rosso II's and I was able to comfortably able to do sub 2:00 laps at the Ridge and under 1:40's at Pacific on the Rosso II's. I have Q3's on my bike right now and expect to pick up a few seconds a lap compared to the Rosso II's.

Edited by Damon Mon Wai on Apr 27th 2016 at 10:37 PM
Apr 27th 2016, 10:35 PM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  Renton, WA

  2010 BMW S1000RR, 2015 Yamaha FZ-07
You should be fine running Q3s this year. I know of guys who are lapping as low as 1:50 to 1:55 at the Ridge using Q3s.
Apr 27th 2016, 10:35 PM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

No. Your Q3s are far better than you at this point. They're good for low a group pace at least. You could even run warmers on them if you didn't want to do a warmup lap. Next step is DOT's, but you still have a ways to go until then
Apr 27th 2016, 10:44 PM   #5
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  Feb 2016
  Bothell

I transitioned to slicks when I got close to the 2:00 mark at the Ridge. People ride street tires into the :50's but the margin to recover from a mistake is reduced on a street tire the faster you go.

If you are out to improve your time switch over, get some warmers and ask for help from instructors. Easier then you think to shave time off a lap.

Takeoff's! They are a good deal. I ran the whole season on 1 takeoff front and went through 2-3 rear tires (got a flat and got about 4-5 days per rear).
Apr 27th 2016, 10:48 PM   #6
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  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

I was told that warmers are a waste on street tires but it seems to me warm tires would have to work better than cold ones... Hey! I have a set of single temp Tyrsox tire warmers that were check fitted only with the covers for $50 if you want them...

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Edited by Parilla125 on Apr 28th 2016 at 11:59 AM
Apr 27th 2016, 10:57 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Parilla125
I was told that warmers are a waste on street tires but it seems to me warm tires would have to work better than cold ones... Hey! I have a set of single temp Tyrsox tire warmers that were check fitted only with the covers for $50 if you want them...
What size is the rear Tyrsox? If the OP doesn't want them I might for a backup set.
Apr 27th 2016, 10:59 PM   #8
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  Jan 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damon Mon Wai
What size is the rear Tyrsox? If the OP doesn't want them I might for a backup set.
Shittiest warmers known to mankind? Eeeehhhhh
Apr 27th 2016, 11:03 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Wyckedan
Shittiest warmers known to mankind? Eeeehhhhh
They work fine for me.
Apr 28th 2016, 03:23 AM   #10
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  Feb 2016
  Bothell

I believe there was a rider who used tire warmers on his street tires last season. We had to pick him and his bike up between turn 1 and 2.

Street rubber isn't ment to be broiled up to 180+
Apr 28th 2016, 07:15 AM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

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Originally Posted by bumblebeetuna
I believe there was a rider who used tire warmers on his street tires last season. We had to pick him and his bike up between turn 1 and 2.

Street rubber isn't ment to be broiled up to 180+
I know plenty of people who use warmers on Q3s with no I'll effects. Even Dunlop says its ok
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Apr 28th 2016, 07:50 AM   #12
 
  Jan 2016
  Washington

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyckedan
I know plenty of people who use warmers on Q3s with no I'll effects. Even Dunlop says its ok
Except Bumblebee had a fantastic point about temperatures.

Dunlop says max of 160F for the Q3. You can run warmers but make sure your warmers are adjustable.

Edited by Redkat600 on Apr 28th 2016 at 08:04 AM
Apr 28th 2016, 08:03 AM   #13
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Available to anyone first come first served. Not sure of the size. I think they are universal and overlap where they meet. There are strings to tighten them up on the sides. If I remember right they are preset for 175 degrees.
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Edited by Parilla125 on Apr 28th 2016 at 11:59 AM
Apr 28th 2016, 08:07 AM   #14
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  Jan 2016
  Kirkland, WA

  '15 675R
When your Dunlops are done you might consider Pirelli Superbike Pro slicks. They're basically a street compound in a long-lasting reversible slick, so for any track day pace I think they're ideal. They don't come in a 160 but fitting a 5.5" wheel in your stock swingarm is a common mod. You'll also be able to find more takeoffs in a 180 whenever you're ready.
Apr 28th 2016, 08:21 AM   #15
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  Jan 2016
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Thanks guys. I kinda figured I might need to have a bit quicker pace before slicks would even get warm enough to be useful. I guess I'll just see where I'm at when the Q3s are actually done.
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