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Jul 29th 2017, 10:53 AM   #1
 Greg's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  PDX

  2014 Triumph Daytona 675R
Track Bike Suggestions

I'll try to keep this as specific as possible ☺. This winter I'll be looking to invest in a street legal, low cost ($1500-$2500) bike I can take to the track. I think I'd like to keep my 675R for street riding and not for limit - expanding. A track only bike wouldn't be practical for me, and would be harder to sell down the road (would also need to ride it on the street for familiarity + would be nice to have as an extra for a buddy etc.).

I'm budgeting in tires and maintenance costs that an older bike may require. I'm 6'3" 212 lbs. so an important factor is the suspension needs to be on the stiffer side to handle my weight. Or in the case of a sv650, already upgraded.

So 4 most important factors for me:
-Reliability
-Supersport (or close to) handling + stiffer suspension
-At least sv650 power
-Ergos that aren't too compact (not expecting the world here)


Pretty set on Japanese bikes, any years/models to avoid 1997 - 2004ish? Any strong opinions on what I should definitely zero in on? Wait for a track ready ready sv650? Vfr800 good option? ZX7R/ ZX9R? Not opposed to bigger displacement bikes

Thanks for any input!





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Jul 29th 2017, 03:32 PM   #2
 Spydrmon's Avatar
 
  Mar 2016
  Bothell

Keep in mind that a track bike, although possible to sell after use, is a risky proposition. Unless you have a buyer who wants to track it only one low-side will negate that resell value asap.

I just bought a pristine 2008 R6 for this exact reason...familiarity with the bike with street riding, and the ability to track it out instead of my primary ride.

Good luck.
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Jul 29th 2017, 06:51 PM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  Lebanon, OR

  2014 Interceptor, 2012 ZX6R
You can't go wrong with an R6 or CBR600. The thing is though that at your price point you'll have some pretty major wear and tear on whatever you buy.
You could shortcut that by buying something that is *already* a track bike. If it were to be a tracked version of what you ride on the street that would aid with your familiarity.

Wait until end of August/September and race/track bikes start going for sale. Good luck!
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Jul 30th 2017, 09:18 AM   #4
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  Mar 2016
  Bothell

Quote:
Originally Posted by lazyeye
You could shortcut that by buying something that is *already* a track bike. If it were to be a tracked version of what you ride on the street that would aid with your familiarity.

Great call. I seen a 675 track bike for sale around the 3K range. Get that and you're set.
Jul 30th 2017, 11:00 AM   #5
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  Apr 2016
  PDX

  2014 Triumph Daytona 675R
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spydrmon
Keep in mind that a track bike, although possible to sell after use, is a risky proposition. Unless you have a buyer who wants to track it only one low-side will negate that resell value asap.

I just bought a pristine 2008 R6 for this exact reason...familiarity with the bike with street riding, and the ability to track it out instead of my primary ride.

Good luck.
I'm fine with some cosmetic damage on the bikes I'm looking at anyways. Part of the reason I'm looking for a low cost, likely older bike is to keep my financial/emotional attachment much lower lol
Jul 30th 2017, 11:27 AM   #6
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  Apr 2016
  PDX

  2014 Triumph Daytona 675R
Quote:
Originally Posted by lazyeye
You can't go wrong with an R6 or CBR600. The thing is though that at your price point you'll have some pretty major wear and tear on whatever you buy.
You could shortcut that by buying something that is *already* a track bike. If it were to be a tracked version of what you ride on the street that would aid with your familiarity.

Wait until end of August/September and race/track bikes start going for sale. Good luck!
-Are you talking 1st gen R6 or pre-RR CBR600 (F3 / F4/ F4i) ? Because those are high on my list unless someone steers me otherwise. I'm leaning to an older/cleaner bike, some cosmetic dmg vs. something newer that's more sketchy dmg/maintenance wise. If I can snag a 600rr or 2003+ R6 for the "right price" not opposed to that either

-I think having something streetable would offer me more utility than a track only bike. Let's say I damage it, repair it, and want to ride it around to make sure everythings working how it's should. What do track ppl do? lol

-I agree about the end of season, I've seen some people panic-sell bikes out of fear that they have to hold onto it for 6 months until riding season comes around again!
Jul 30th 2017, 12:56 PM   #7
 
  Feb 2016
  Bremerton

From what i've seen, if you want a titled track bike, with street and track plastics, you are gonna spend more.

If you want a track bike, you can get a decent one which has likely been down a couple times, probably no title for what you're looking at spending.

Example, mine will be going up in the not too distant future for around 2200. 02 gsxr600. 114 hp, fat kid suspension, track plastics, extra bits, no title. I did a search, came back clean, apparently was bought back from insurance years back and never titled.

But that's kinda what you're looking at.
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Jul 30th 2017, 02:04 PM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Des Moines

  M1200s, VFR800 & GSXR750
I'd suggest a GSXR750, but I might be bias... I definitely wouldn't take my VFR800 to the track again unless it was my only bike running at the time. While I enjoy commuting on it, it felt as nimble as a hippo on the track (but I am a noob, cause those VFR cop videos would say otherwise). A Honda F3 / F4/ F4i seems like a great option too!
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Jul 30th 2017, 02:53 PM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
Here's a CBR600F4 in your price range (all the F4i's start above $3000)

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/m...237710788.html

Maybe an old school ZX7:

https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/m...237473156.html

Another option that is similar to the CBR-Fs would be the Yamaha YZF600R:

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/m...241795421.html

https://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/m...224899553.html

Unfortunately your price range pretty well limits what's available. Plus it means that any bike you buy now, will have very limited returns reselling down the road.
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Edited by VeritasImageryNW on Jul 30th 2017 at 02:55 PM
Jul 30th 2017, 05:34 PM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  '15 KLZ1000BFF (BEST FRANDS 4EVER!)
I am doing the same thing with a 2003 SV650S. Twin motor makes it easier to work on (2 less thingies that 4's) and they are reliable bikes once you account for any known foibles (fuel line between throttle bodies being bad, etc). Not quite in your price range, but close.
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Jul 30th 2017, 08:09 PM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  Des Moines

  M1200s, VFR800 & GSXR750
This F3 looks interesting!

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/m...215371095.html
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Jul 30th 2017, 08:34 PM   #12
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  May 2016
  Wilsonville

  S1000RR
Maybe save your change for something newer.I had 05 R6 and 07R6r and it was big difference. Maintenance is all about the same but upgrading and building track bike is expensive. Try to find one that is already set up (ex race bikes can be great).
Once you get addicted and get faster, fees and tires alone will need savings account.
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Jul 31st 2017, 12:15 AM   #13
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  Jan 2016
  Bremerton

  '12 Concours14, '08 GSX1300R, '06 GSX-R 750
I'm an advocate for a track only bike. One that has already been converted. You'll find that taking advantage of someone else putting all the track goodies on it will save you money. You'll find that familiarity won't be a big deal. I thought the same thing but turns out that even riding standard shift on the street and switching to GP shift on the track is a non-event. Oddly enough, if I take a standard shift bike on the track I have issues with misshifting due to habit.

As tech advances, the older war pigs are getting obsolete (and cheaper) but I'm still a fan of a lot of the mid-2000's bikes. Sticking to the more popular Japanese bikes is a good idea as there is still plenty parts availability for them. I like GSX-R's for the track because I'm pretty sure if I have a minor lowside at the track I will be able to find enough spare parts in the paddock to be back out by the end of the day.

An 06-07 or 08-09 GSX-R 750 will get you plenty of power to get around the track but won't be a shitload of work to ride like a liter bike can be. Unless you find a bike that had the suspension set up for a rider the same size as you, you're gonna have to have it reworked. It's not that bike a deal though. Starting off with a spring swap for ~$150 will get you where you need to be. If you find you need more than that there are a lot of guys who part out track bikes for really decent prices.

Anyway, that's my $0.02. Oh, I'm also 6'2" and weigh 250 on a good day and still do good enough on my '06 750 so take that how you will.
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Aug 2nd 2017, 10:15 PM   #14
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  Apr 2016
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  2014 Triumph Daytona 675R
I'm pretty set on getting a street-able bike. If I change anything, repair it, etc. like to ride it around legally, etc. as mentioned above.

Anyways I'm pretty patient...I'll see what pops up. Sounds like maybe spending a lil extra for a more modern bike is a better path, especially if I get more active in track riding
Aug 3rd 2017, 08:45 AM   #15
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for under $2,500, you don't get suggestions, you don't get what you want, you get what you can find.

add $1,000 to your budget and you can get a track only bike that isn't a teenager. add $2,000 if you expect it to be streetable with both sets of fairings.

for $2,500 you're going to find 10+ year old clapped out no title/salvaged title bikes that will most likely require you to spend $1000 on them to get them safe to ride (tires, suspension, fork/brake/engine fluids, chain, sprocket, maintenance, service etc)

that being said i have a '07 R6 (title in the mail) thats race ready with heavy suspension, a triumph 675 (clean title) thats track ready with heavy suspension, and a ducati 749 (bill of sale only) thats race ready all for under $4,000 each if you're interested
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