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Apr 18th 2016, 06:18 PM   #1
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  Feb 2016
  Bellingham

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Toni Elias ends R1 domination

Nice to see something and someone other than Cam or Josh winning in our national series.
Clearly no one cares about the national series or WSBK for that matter, it all appears to be MotoGP on this forum.
Apr 18th 2016, 06:29 PM   #2
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, 05 Suzuki SV650
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Originally Posted by cgt1229
Nice to see something and someone other than Cam or Josh winning in our national series.

Clearly no one cares about the national series or WSBK for that matter, it all appears to be MotoGP on this forum.


It isn't that no one cares, but since none of the series can be bothered to air on a channel the majority of fans can get, it's difficult to keep interest up.

The fact that MotoAmerica, who claimed to want to reinvigorate motorcycle road racing is this country chose to go with BeIN is extremely frustrating. Hard to build a fan base when you're airing on an obscure channel.

Plus, until MotoAmerica's SuperBike class has more than two factory backed teams, it will still just be glorified club racing.
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Apr 18th 2016, 07:02 PM   #3
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  Feb 2016
  Rent'n

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Huh? I love WorldSBK. I just finished watching Race 1 and 2 Assen.

Great race and there was a bit o rain to make things interesting.

I just got on to post about it. But then, I am in agreeance that there have been no other posts for the past 2 rounds, so I am afraid to start something.
Apr 18th 2016, 07:06 PM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

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Originally Posted by VeritasImageryNW
It isn't that no one cares, but since none of the series can be bothered to air on a channel the majority of fans can get, it's difficult to keep interest up.

The fact that MotoAmerica, who claimed to want to reinvigorate motorcycle road racing is this country chose to go with BeIN is extremely frustrating. Hard to build a fan base when you're airing on an obscure channel.

Plus, until MotoAmerica's SuperBike class has more than two factory backed teams, it will still just be glorified club racing.
Rumor is Aprilia will be offering factory support for HSBK starting at the next round. Claudio Corti is killing it in Super stock and they've noticed. Also who ever thought you'd hear Toni Elias took three wins in a row ever again?! Super rad
Apr 18th 2016, 07:08 PM   #5
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Have to say it was good to see Nicky get his first podium of the series. Or should I say read he got his first podium since I don't get the channel.

Just still bitter about Speed Channel getting killed. Although it had become more like NASCAR Channel before the end.


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Apr 18th 2016, 07:29 PM   #6
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I liked seeing Tony and Yosh win, but Cam did crash or run off the track all three races too.
Apr 18th 2016, 07:47 PM   #7
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Have to say it was good to see Nicky get his first podium of the series. Or should I say read he got his first podium since I don't get the channel.

Just still bitter about Speed Channel getting killed. Although it had become more like NASCAR Channel before the end.


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I have already mentioned this on other threads. This sport is a 'W'orld 'W'ide 'W'sport. there are tools that you use EVERYDAY that if you can 'find' the races.

Nicky has been lucky the last two rounds due to crash outs that move him up. He just does not seem fast or aggressive like the ol' days. then again, neither does Rossi, however his crash last week showed that he was pushing it.
Apr 18th 2016, 07:52 PM   #8
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That's all great if one, you have a decent internet connection, and two, your computer isn't in a different room than your television.

I tried watching MotoAmerica the first year, with their internet only coverage, and with all the buffering and 17inch screen it just sucked all the enjoyment out of it.


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Apr 18th 2016, 08:01 PM   #9
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  Jan 2016
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I liked seeing Tony and Yosh win, but Cam did crash or run off the track all three races too.
Racing is racing. There's always a "if ----------- hadn't happened"
Apr 18th 2016, 08:04 PM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

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I have already mentioned this on other threads. This sport is a 'W'orld 'W'ide 'W'sport. there are tools that you use EVERYDAY that if you can 'find' the races.

Nicky has been lucky the last two rounds due to crash outs that move him up. He just does not seem fast or aggressive like the ol' days. then again, neither does Rossi, however his crash last week showed that he was pushing it.
Nicky absolutely had the pace to keep up tho. Made it look easy. Hoping he gets more aggressive, but Wsbk is more "hectic" than GP, especially the GP he's been in the last few years (mid pack). All Rossi showed was what everyone has been showing all year, that the Michelin's are not up to the demands of GP bikes yet.
Apr 18th 2016, 08:08 PM   #11
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  Jan 2016
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As far as Nicky goes, when he is able to finish he is finishing higher than he has in MotoGP the last several years. And that's on an "outdated" bike and one that he isn't used to. Also factor in tires that work and feel different than what he's accustomed to, as well as a new to him team and even new tracks.

Not bad if you ask me. Even he wrote this season off as a learning one, and a prep for Honda's new SuperBike.


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Apr 19th 2016, 07:20 AM   #12
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  Feb 2016
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All Rossi showed was what everyone has been showing all year, that the Michelin's are not up to the demands of GP bikes yet.
Yet Michelin set a lap record at one of the rounds already, can't remember which one. Aren't they using 17'' fronts instead of 16.5'' too?

I read that the grip is better in the rear and not so much in the front,
so the engineers/riders probably have their hands full adopting to the bike's new geometry and less grippy front.
Forgot about the ECU's being all the same too.
Apr 19th 2016, 07:29 AM   #13
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  Jan 2016
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Yet Michelin set a lap record at one of the rounds already, can't remember which one. Aren't they using 17'' fronts instead of 16.5'' too?

I read that the grip is better in the rear and not so much in the front,
so the engineers/riders probably have their hands full adopting to the bike's new geometry and less grippy front.
Forgot about the ECU's being all the same too.
Yes that is all correct. However, the tires aren't consistent.
Apr 19th 2016, 11:38 AM   #14
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Racing is racing. There's always a "if ----------- hadn't happened"
Very true, but it's not like he beat Cam in a straight fight. Hopefully we'll get to see them both finish a race together soon!
Apr 19th 2016, 08:34 PM   #15
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  Feb 2016
  Washington

So.... what brand of bike stopped the Yamaha R1 domination??
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