Instagram     

Go Back   PNW Moto > PNW Moto > Track

Track Motorcycle track riding topics and discussions

Like Tree16Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Apr 9th 2018, 07:12 PM   #31
 Willow's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Silverdale, WA

  848evo, DRZ400SM, XR100
Quote:
Originally Posted by paradox206
There was a lot of yelling at my TV yesterday. I was expecting a black flag, but now I'm hoping for a grid penalty for the next race. I was also expecting Cal to crash at any moment during those last few laps, as it is his natural state. Great job by him, Zarco and Rins though!
Ha, I was saying the same thing to my TV..........."It's OK Zarco, Crutchlow is going to crash, and you have your win." But he didn't!
Good finish with those front 3. Nice to see some battles at the end of races.....finally.
Apr 9th 2018, 08:09 PM   #32
 Rock Dodger's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Washington

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryfly
I pay 10 bucks a month for fubotv. Worth it to me for all 3 series, plus you can DVR the races.
I went to their website, and it looks like the cost is $44.95/mo. How do you get the $10 deal?
Apr 9th 2018, 09:25 PM   #33
 
  Jan 2016
  Spokane, WA

  1299 Panigale Anniversario #81/500, 2006 GSX-R 1000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rock Dodger
I went to their website, and it looks like the cost is $44.95/mo. How do you get the $10 deal?
Hmmm, looks like they changed their subscription plan. I signed up like 2 or 3 years ago, and never cancelled, even during the offseason. I guess I must be grandfathered in.
Apr 10th 2018, 02:51 AM   #34
 Burphel's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Travelling around the NW

  Triumph Bonnezilla, Little Ninja
Videopass is something like $140 for the season. You can watch it live or stream whenever you like. No ads (well, except for the ones painted on the bikes).
Apr 11th 2018, 08:29 AM   #35
 PeteN95's Avatar
Moderator
 
  Jan 2016
  Muklilteo, WA

  Suzuki DL1000, Honda XR650R, KTM 250 XC-W
Quote:
Originally Posted by VeritasImageryNW
Except that when Rossi ran him off the road back on 2015, it was only after Marc had been aggressively trying to slow Rossi down, and not in just that race. ....
Only in the mind of the doctor, Marquez was just racing. If he was really trying to help Jorge, why didn't he let him win PI? And Rossi is no saint:



Apr 11th 2018, 09:47 AM   #36
 Sentinel's Avatar
 
  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMikeMike
...traction control is getting way to good. Watching the on board coverage they all just pin the throttle on turn exit and let the ecu figure it out.
I have been wondering about this with street bikes.

Does anyone with TCS actually USE it, as in - you are exiting a curve and you just go WFO and let the computer keep your rear wheel in line?

I have TCS on my C14, and I have whacked it open (straight line) on a wet street and felt it modulate the torque a bit. But I don't have the "faith" to do that shit for real in a turn.
Apr 11th 2018, 09:53 AM   #37
 Cougar's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Richland

  Yamaha FZ1, KTM Super Duke GT, Yamaha FJR, Yamaha XS650
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentinel
I have been wondering about this with street bikes.

Does anyone with TCS actually USE it, as in - you are exiting a curve and you just go WFO and let the computer keep your rear wheel in line?

I have TCS on my C14, and I have whacked it open (straight line) on a wet street and felt it modulate the torque a bit. But I don't have the "faith" to do that shit for real in a turn.
When I had my 1198S I did. I had it on level 4 of 8 and it kicked in. The only time I've ever wheelied while leaned over coming out of a corner on the street was on that bike. I've done it lots of times in the dirt but it felt GREAT doing it on the street.
Apr 12th 2018, 12:15 PM   #38
 equinity's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Puyallup

  Yamaha FZ1, Aprilia RSV4 R
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentinel
I have been wondering about this with street bikes.

Does anyone with TCS actually USE it, as in - you are exiting a curve and you just go WFO and let the computer keep your rear wheel in line?

I have TCS on my C14, and I have whacked it open (straight line) on a wet street and felt it modulate the torque a bit. But I don't have the "faith" to do that shit for real in a turn.


Does on my RSV4. On cold tires and cold surface I can feel, hear, and see the TC intervene if it thinks I'm going too nuts. It also depends on the map I'm running too. At the track it will still let me power wheelie out of a corner with the TC set too high, but I've also had it shut me down when I started to lose a little traction on exit too, so I think I have it set too high in general.

Cornering ABS is whole different conversation though.

Something to keep in mind with purpose built race bikes is that they have complete control of the ECU. They've mapped out every inch of the track and tuned every detail to make them the fastest they can possibly be, so they might have a torque profile for T2 that's completely different for T5 and so on. I know BSB bikes have this level of control, so if BSB has it, MotoGP is better.


Sent via iPhone
Apr 12th 2018, 01:12 PM   #39
 VeritasImageryNW's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
Quote:
Originally Posted by equinity
Does on my RSV4. On cold tires and cold surface I can feel, hear, and see the TC intervene if it thinks I'm going too nuts. It also depends on the map I'm running too. At the track it will still let me power wheelie out of a corner with the TC set too high, but I've also had it shut me down when I started to lose a little traction on exit too, so I think I have it set too high in general.

Cornering ABS is whole different conversation though.

Something to keep in mind with purpose built race bikes is that they have complete control of the ECU. They've mapped out every inch of the track and tuned every detail to make them the fastest they can possibly be, so they might have a torque profile for T2 that's completely different for T5 and so on. I know BSB bikes have this level of control, so if BSB has it, MotoGP is better.


Sent via iPhone
The reality is that BSB doesn't have any electronic rider aids so everything is done with ECU mapping. This is one reason BSB racing is so equalized, and why the Hondas can be competitive in that series.

http://44teeth.com/close-british-superbike-electronics/

Sent via SM-G950U
Apr 12th 2018, 07:53 PM   #40
 equinity's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Puyallup

  Yamaha FZ1, Aprilia RSV4 R
Quote:
Originally Posted by VeritasImageryNW
The reality is that BSB doesn't have any electronic rider aids so everything is done with ECU mapping. This is one reason BSB racing is so equalized, and why the Hondas can be competitive in that series.

http://44teeth.com/close-british-superbike-electronics/

Sent via SM-G950U


Funny because that's where I saw about the ECU mapping for BSB.


Sent via iPhone
Apr 13th 2018, 07:37 PM   #41
 VeritasImageryNW's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
Great insight from a former champion.

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/ne...wantz-1025596/

Sent via SM-G950U
Apr 14th 2018, 07:45 AM   #42
 alienbogey's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Gig Harbor

AP (Aaist, Belgium) The Repsol Honda MotoGP racing team today unveiled major changes to World Champion Marc Marquez's Honda RC213V. Team Principal Alberto Puig outlined the changes to the assembled media representatives.

"I know you're all going to ask me about the obvious external change, but before we get to that I'd like to talk about the changes we made under the hood in response to our Argentina clusterfuck.

" First, we upped the idle by 1,500 rpm so that we don't stall on the grid and cause Marc's IQ to instantly drop 50 points. Second, if that does somehow happen again his dashboard will immediately begin flashing, "GO TO PIT ROW, STUPID" in Spanish. If that doesn't get his attention we've engineered a large anamatronic hand to emerge from the faring and point the way, swiveling as required.

"Finally, as you can see from the photos we provided in your press kits, we've made significant changes to the aerodynamics of the Repsol Honda RC213V. Yes, we've given up a little with regards to drag coefficient, but our guy is so fucking fast that we figure it won't matter. Also, the change shifts enough weight to the front tire that Marc will be able to run the same DOT legal Michellin Road 5 front for the entire season, which will be a saving."



A journalist asked what MotoGP Tech had to say about the legality of the changes to the aero.

"It's not winglets so they can't say shit," Puig replied.

"What about Rossi?" asked another.

"We're not worried about that pussy, he already says he's afraid to race with Marc. Now the rest of the field will be, too."
Burphel and equinity like this.
Apr 16th 2018, 06:50 AM   #43
 Neverseenrain's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Bremerton, WA

  Anything with two wheels.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burphel
I can't believe nobody picked Spies up as an announcer. They had him up in the booth for a whole race when he was sitting out injured one time. Best commentary I've ever heard.

The start was an okay compromise. Personally, I think they should have flipped the script - Had Miller start from pit lane with a full 3 second headstart, then released the rest of the field from the grid. Would have avoided the mayhem of a mass start from pit lane, but given Miller the advantage he deserved.

Marquez' bump start, then ignoring marshals and riding backwards alone would have been enough to get you black flagged in club racing. It probably would have gotten one of the slower independent riders yanked as well. If Karel Abraham had pulled that shit, do you think he would have stayed in the race? Same with greasing up Espargaro's leathers and broadsiding Rossi. Yes, he's fast, but he also had the worst case of red mist poisoning I've ever seen. He needs a good kick in the balls from race direction. To be repeated if he doesn't learn from it.
Spies wont do anything unless his mother Mary tells him. Btw, if you have any Spies items there is a good chance that his mom signed them for him.
Apr 16th 2018, 07:08 AM   #44
 Neverseenrain's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Bremerton, WA

  Anything with two wheels.
To look at Marquez riding habits, one has to consider the culture of his camp. His manager is a slippery one, willing to do what it takes to make money. He is good at signing commercial contracts then deals with competitors as well if he can get away with it. Remember when VR had problems with not giving the government a fair share? MM is in the same boat, just watch.

On the other hand, he is a nice guy who keeps a low profile off the track. He is known to reside on the Island of Minorca, while most others are partying on Majorca.
Apr 16th 2018, 02:03 PM   #45
 
  Sep 2016
  Spokane

  02 FZ1 Yamaha, 08 Suzuki GSXR 1000 trackbike, Honda XR200
Don't cry for me Argentina

Everyone has a right to have their opinion on this motogp race. It was FUBAR from the start, it should have never been started the way they did it, all those riders that were actually on the grid was a violation of the rule to start from the pit lane, -1 Race direction, then when MM stalled his bike, there is controversial evidence he was ok to regrid up, heck Race Direction was already making up new rules on the fly, why not let MM line up, it was safer, so after they give him the thumbs up, he gets a ride thru penalty, had that not happened, all the BS of him trying too hard to get back up front would have never happened. Their is plenty of blame to spread around and MM should have cooled it trying to catch up, but that is like trying to cool down a flamethrower. For the record, I am a MM fan, for the record, I think he should have played it smarter and safer, but VR is certainly no saint in this regard so I disregard the press and media that the Rossi camp is putting out non-stop, it just inflames the situation. My last comment to Rossi and his fans is "he who is perfect, may cast the first stone". Rossi did not even get penalties years ago on the Seti incident, or Stoner, or etc etc. Race direction needs to get some consistency, I am not condoning reckless riding, but maybe Rossi did, when it suited him. His famous quote, "it just racing" makes me agree with some other crash.net posters that he helped foster exactly this environment, so like some said, he is reaping what he has sowed. Let us hope for a less demolition derby in the future and that all fouls are called, not just on high profile riders as there were multiple infractions by multiple riders that were ignored, including one on the race winner, Cal Crutchlow.
Neverseenrain likes this.
Reply

  PNW Moto > PNW Moto > Track

Tags
argentine, motogp, spoiler



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
MotoGP 2018 Willow Track 2 Mar 14th 2018 02:11 PM
SPOILER ALERT! MotoGP Winner VeritasImageryNW Track 12 May 25th 2016 06:34 PM
*Spoiler* MotoGP Jerez Naza Track 2 Apr 26th 2016 07:12 AM
MotoGP Flyboymedic Track 2 Apr 11th 2016 08:03 PM
MotoGP Thumperpilot Bellingham 3 Mar 19th 2016 09:08 PM




Copyright © 2018 PNW Moto. All rights reserved.