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Jan 30th 2016, 10:35 AM   #1
 equinity's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Puyallup

  Yamaha FZ1, Aprilia RSV4 R
Maybe a stupid question

I have been looking for a race bike and there a few here in the US, but I have been starting to look at our neighbors to the north.

The, possibly stupid, question is this; how hard is it to get a RACE bike across the border? Emphasis on the race part of this equation. I have no intention of ever getting a WA title for the bike, it's sole purpose in life is "closed course competition."

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Jan 30th 2016, 11:08 AM   #2
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  Jan 2016
  Spokane Valley

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If you don't need a title, there shouldn't be a problem.

The US dollar is currently worth about C$1.40, so keep that in mind...



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Jan 30th 2016, 11:27 AM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  Puyallup

  Yamaha FZ1, Aprilia RSV4 R
Any idea how the border crossing would work?

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Jan 30th 2016, 12:39 PM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  Bremerton

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You should have no issue at the boarder. Bikes aren't restricted goods. I highly doubt they'd even ask about it.

Having a bill of sale might be handy just in case. If the bike is titled and the pervious owner signs release on it that would be even better. Keep it track only and you won't ever have to worry about registration etc.

Many track bikes are sold by BOS anyway since the titles are usually long gone.
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Jan 31st 2016, 01:11 AM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Kirkland

Leave a bag of weed or handgun on your dashboard and they won't notice the bike!

Double check on the import issues, and get your story straight, somebody is likely going to wanna pop you for duty fees, etc. Seriously.

Likely it's best to get your Canadian seller to bring it across, he can say he's going to a track day or whatever.

AMHIK, I bought a bike up there, on a Canadian Bill of Sale, and the border crossing was an interesting experience.

Terrorists have an easier time getting across, just saying.
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Jan 31st 2016, 08:31 AM   #6
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  Jan 2016
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Like zoomie said I'd do the deal here in the states since the border is likely the only place you're gonna get hassled.
Feb 4th 2016, 03:56 PM   #7
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  Feb 2016
  Seattle

In addition to getting a bill of sale, you double check the VIN# with the RCMP before buying the bike and heading to the border. If it's stolen and you try and take it across an international border you are going to have issues.
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Feb 4th 2016, 10:45 PM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

What are you looking for? There are always some for sale on the WMRRA site here in Washington site. I have seen some on CL also. Have to be easier than going North to get one. Doubt you would make that much of a better deal that would make up for the time and gas spent driving up.
Feb 5th 2016, 05:57 AM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
Maybe a stupid question

Quote:
Originally Posted by Parilla125
What are you looking for? There are always some for sale on the WMRRA site here in Washington site. I have seen some on CL also. Have to be easier than going North to get one. Doubt you would make that much of a better deal that would make up for the time and gas spent driving up.

I know that John Gessner's former R6 is for sale on CL right now.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/mcy/5410389151.html


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Feb 5th 2016, 07:12 AM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  Redmond, WA

something else to consider is if/when you want to sell the bike. You'll get a lot less money, and have a harder time selling a bike without a title.
Feb 5th 2016, 10:58 AM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  Puyallup

  Yamaha FZ1, Aprilia RSV4 R
Truth be told, I'm not too worried about resale. I know there are a few Canadian bikes with the club already and no one is buying a track bike to license and ride on the road.

I'm looking to get on the track in a competitive setting with minimal investment in the bike. I will likely spend two seasons in novice unless they kick me out.

As a corner worker, I see the competitiveness of the more popular classes, 600 SS/SBK and 1000 SS/SBK, and I'm very realistic about my skills. I don't think I can be competitive in those classes.

Then I look at the physics of me racing. I'm not a small man, so on a even playing field with the bike, I go slower than the smaller riders. Like I said physics. This is the one thing that makes me hesitant to take on Ninja 250 cup. Can I make up the difference with skill and courage in the corners? Maybe, but maybe not. The front straight at Pacific is long on 250.

Now a lot of you might say that I'm over thinking it, and that very well may be. I'm a scientist, it's kinda what I do.

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Feb 5th 2016, 11:09 AM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  Puyallup

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Originally Posted by Redkat600
If you need any more reassurance, just think of all the guys on those itty bitty 160's flying around the track.
I love watching you guys in Vintage. I've actually thought about Vintage, but have no idea where to start there. I definitely know more about modern bikes, FI is my friend.

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Feb 5th 2016, 12:14 PM   #13
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  Jan 2016
  NW

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You should have no issue at the boarder. Bikes aren't restricted goods. I highly doubt they'd even ask about it.
Not true. The border guards are very picky about Canadian vehicles. They will ask you "are you bringing anything back from Canada?" Are you going to lie to them? (bad idea)
Expect to pay duty on the bike, unless the seller brings it across.

Many years ago (before 9/11) I was visiting a friend in Abbotsford and he asked me to drive his car across the border to get gas. Gas is often 40% cheaper in the US, so its very common for Canadians to cross the border to get gas, milk and cheese (all cheaper here). The border guard told me "I can't let you (an American in a Canadian car) across unless you pay duty on the car.. That's the rule." and turned me around.

Edited by Scribbles on Feb 5th 2016 at 12:17 PM
Feb 5th 2016, 12:16 PM   #14
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  Jan 2016
  Buckley

Got my engine from Canada no issues no customs
Feb 5th 2016, 12:29 PM   #15
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  Jan 2016
  NW

Quote:
Originally Posted by tchase
Got my engine from Canada no issues no customs
You are allowed to bring a certain amount of things back without paying taxes(duty), an engine might be below that amount but not a race bike.

My Ex is Canadian, so I crossed the border many, many times. When we went to a family reunion camping trip (in Canada) I brought a 24 pack of beer and 2 bottles of wine. It was more than we were allowed and I had to fill out forms and pay $20 in taxes for $35 worth of alcohol. They don't fuck around..

Edited by Scribbles on Feb 5th 2016 at 12:31 PM
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