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Jun 12th 2017, 03:41 PM   #16
 
  Aug 2016
  Snohomish county WA

  2002 FZ1 , 1979 gs425 project
Scares the shit out of me when watching the IOM tt. It makes me anxious thinking at anytime if a tire slips ect that they could die or even take out a spectator just watching. To each their own but I will watch from the safety of my chair. They can do what ever they want IMO its their choice and their life.
Jun 12th 2017, 07:21 PM   #17
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  Jan 2016
  Washington County

  H-D
Yep, we can all concede the point that motorcycles can be dangerous. If the venue is racing, a fatal outcome is rare and not as common as for the street rider.

I take exception to the phrase "...at least s/he was doing something they liked." An IOM rider probably does not have time to even be thinking "Oh shit" let alone thinking about how much they love riding. Same as on the street, no one has that thought as they get plowed by an inattentive motorist.

If you've been in that situation and quickly thought of some karmic justification for your possible upcoming demise before impact, please share that with the rest of us. I may be mistaken but you guys who say you would rather die riding than live old and infirm may change your tune as you age. If I am mistaken in that hypothesis, I apologize for the offense. Ride on.
Jun 12th 2017, 07:24 PM   #18
 
  Jan 2016
  Gig Harbor

  BMW F650GS / BMW R12R
When I posted the original link I had no idea it would trigger such a philosophical discussion.
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Jun 13th 2017, 07:48 AM   #19
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  Apr 2016
  Renton

Quote:
Originally Posted by 307T
Yep, we can all concede the point that motorcycles can be dangerous. If the venue is racing, a fatal outcome is rare and not as common as for the street rider.

I take exception to the phrase "...at least s/he was doing something they liked." An IOM rider probably does not have time to even be thinking "Oh shit" let alone thinking about how much they love riding. Same as on the street, no one has that thought as they get plowed by an inattentive motorist.

If you've been in that situation and quickly thought of some karmic justification for your possible upcoming demise before impact, please share that with the rest of us. I may be mistaken but you guys who say you would rather die riding than live old and infirm may change your tune as you age. If I am mistaken in that hypothesis, I apologize for the offense. Ride on.
In my mind, the problem isn't dying in a bad crash... I'm dead, what do I care? The problem is surviving it. Healing and living with the resulting injuries sucks.

I agree with DocB, lots of examples or drivers/ riders pushing safety. Look at what John Force did for the NHRA. He came back from what was almost a career- and life-ending crash "Upside-down, backwards, on fire faster than most people ever go" to introduce fistfuls of innovations that will help others in similar situations. That sport has a rich history of drivers getting tired of engines blowing up in there face and friends dying, but it keeps rolling and performance gets more extreme all the time.
Jun 16th 2017, 08:50 AM   #20
 
  Jan 2016
  Gig Harbor

  BMW F650GS / BMW R12R
Here's another interesting article on the Isle of Man TT. There's also a video that (unfortunately, in my opinion) tends to concentrate on a number of crashes. The riding sequences in the video made my palms sweaty.

Zen and the Art of the World?s Deadliest Motorcycle Race | The New Yorker

Milky Quayle has a quote that speaks the issue discussed in many of the replies to the original post: I still ride fast bikes almost every day. But I do miss the racing. And without it, to be honest, I struggle with life. I suspect that's why most of the racers come back.

Rob
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