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Jun 26th 2016, 11:15 AM   #1
 
  Jan 2016
  North Idaho

Looking for E85 in the area

The only place I knew of "grocery boys" in crest line have stopped selling it.

I got my Mustang all ready to go and now I have no fuel



Sorry for the non motorcycle post but looking for some local help
Jun 26th 2016, 01:16 PM   #2
 cool1442's Avatar
 
  Mar 2016
  North of CDA

  KTM 950 Super Enduro, Honda XR 650R
Wow, I have Never ever seen E85 for sale anywhere. Has it been common locally anywhere?
Jun 26th 2016, 01:30 PM   #3
 Pavement Tested's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Bremerton

  '08 GSX1300R, '06 GSX-R 750, '17 KTM 690 Duke
Wait, you actually WANT to use E85?
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Jun 26th 2016, 01:57 PM   #4
 
  Jan 2016
  North Idaho

My car was tuned on E85 when I lived out of state and it was easier to get. E85 allows more boost and timing while still being less prone to detonation.

The car made really good power on it, but that is all for not as I am no longer able to find it.

I am looking for a local tuner who can tune Big Stuff3 also, I want/need to go back to a pump gas tune

Edited by groverdill on Jun 26th 2016 at 02:11 PM
Jun 26th 2016, 02:10 PM   #5
 Pigs's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

  bicicleta
Maybe you can install a flex fuel sensor that would allow you to run on both regular pump gas and E85.
Jun 26th 2016, 05:10 PM   #6
 Bill98579's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  98579

  Aprilia
Try here?
Looks like Richland is the closest.

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Jun 26th 2016, 05:42 PM   #7
 
  Jan 2016
  North Idaho

175 miles is not worth the trip. time to give up E85 and find a tuner for a pump gas tune.
Jun 26th 2016, 10:00 PM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Spokane Valley

  DRZ, Boulevard C90
Quote:
Originally Posted by cool1442
Wow, I have Never ever seen E85 for sale anywhere. Has it been common locally anywhere?
I've never seen E85 closer than the Dakotas.
If you want it around here, you'll have to make it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by groverdill
The car made really good power on it, but that is all for not as I am no longer able to find it.
Wait 'til you try it with real gasoline, then.

And it's, "...all for naught..."


KevinD
Jun 27th 2016, 08:47 AM   #9
 
  Jan 2016
  North Idaho

Not sure what you meant by real gas. E85 from the pump the car was able to make 25psi and 950 rwhp, on fuel that was $2.50 a gallon.


I am not here to debate the merits of E85 but I can assure you it works ( when available )
Jun 28th 2016, 09:27 PM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  Spokane Valley

  DRZ, Boulevard C90
Quote:
Originally Posted by groverdill
I am not here to debate the merits of E85 but I can assure you it works ( when available )
Oh, no doubt that it works.
But E85 has less energy per unit than gasoline.

Regardless, you could still make your own if you really want to.



KevinD
Jul 11th 2016, 01:04 AM   #11
 
  Jan 2016
  Renton

  2011 Triumph Daytona 675, 1975 Honda CB550K1
That is one clean Fox, I wish mine were that pretty. My understanding is that E85 's true octane level comes in at around 94-96, so could you run premium gas with an octane booster and be safe?

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Oct 9th 2018, 01:57 PM   #12
 Sentinel's Avatar
 
  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
Frankenstein thread - E15 (not talking about E85) may be coming to WA soon.

Note that ethanol is the reason your weed whacker and lawnmower "die" every couple of years or are hard to start after they are a couple of months old.

The ethanol attacks the (el-cheapo) plastic diaphragm in the "carburettor" setup which makes it rigid, makes it crack, and definitely makes it not-work.

When you take your lawnmower to a small-engine guy to get it fixed he replaces the diaphragm, with a silicon one if he's legit, with another cheap-ass plastic one if he's not.

Also note that it is ethanol that makes some gas caps not fit after a while (and some other plastic pieces in the fuel systems). They swell up (they actually get bigger and almost Stay-Puft-Marshmallow-Man looking).

My Lawn Boy lawnmower gas cap is swolen and I had to trim it with a box cutter to get it to fit after the first year. That's when I started looking into this.

Ethanol is also hydrophilic, which means that your new E15 fuel will hold more water, too. So - bonus.

The news today says we are moving (YMMV - maybe we're not. Not way to tell these days what's true and what's not. Maybe they'll just give us all free ponies to ride) from 10% ethanol to 15% ethanol, which is a gift to "Iowa corn farmers" (and by that you should read Archer-Daniels). It will add 50% more corn to your gas, raising the price of food (altering the supply-demand ratio) as well as lowering the BTU's in your fuel.

Ethanol contains approx. 34% less energy per unit volume than gasoline, and therefore in theory, burning pure ethanol in a vehicle reduces miles per US gallon 34%, given the same fuel economy, compared to burning pure gasoline. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel

This is fuckery on a grand scale, and you should be pissed.

https://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=WA
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Edited by Sentinel on Oct 9th 2018 at 02:21 PM
Oct 9th 2018, 02:56 PM   #13
 Dash Riprock's Avatar
 
  Apr 2018
  N Idaho

  Yamaha 650
Bitchin car, and I respect that you don't want to debate the merits of E85 but I think it would be good to mention that they probably stopped selling it because it eats engine components from the inside out. The NMMA, many small engine, and engine component manufacturers have all recommended keeping ethanol at less than 10 percent because of its effects on aluminum, plus all the reasons stated in the post above.

Even if you lost a few ponies I would tune it for pump gas.

Do you bring it to Car D Lene? Even in stock form Ford did such a terrific job on that series of Mustang. Really nice car!
Oct 9th 2018, 07:00 PM   #14
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
super-relevant point in a motorcycle forum - aluminum.

anyone have some aluminum in their engine or on their bike anywhere?

LOL
Oct 9th 2018, 11:39 PM   #15
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  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

Really pretty Mustang! Even if it has an alcohol problem...
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