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Nov 7th 2019, 06:05 AM   #31
 
  Apr 2017
  Seattle

  DL650A
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Originally Posted by Oregon Motorcycle
... I caught myself expecting the “phone delay” at a light the other day ...
Reasons why I don't think we'll see REAL reform any time soon (and I believe in government!):

- it's hard to enforce

- cell phone lobby

- the public will bitch and moan

- business people will bitch and moan even more loudly

- cops use cell phones in their personal vehicles (after all, they're cops and laws don't apply to them)

- but mostly, ---> politicians want to use cell phones while driving <---
Nov 7th 2019, 10:35 AM   #32
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  Jan 2016
  Northeast Olalla

  07 Guzzi
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Originally Posted by Bald Guy

Seems to me we are overestimating our abilities and are riding to what we perceive our abilities to be rather than accepting we are of average abilities and riding accordingly.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

When we teach the Advance Rider Course (MSF) the students are asked to rate their skills, risk taking, likelihood of a crash, response to peer pressure, and how much they mentor new riders. They are also asked to relate a recent risky or stupid thing that they have done with a motorcycle.

It is always interesting to see how the students perform after making their estimates. It is also telling on what "war story" they opt to share.

As the rider coach, I make sure to go last so as to not pollute the results. The numbers tend to come in a lot lower when the R-C goes first.
Nov 7th 2019, 02:18 PM   #33
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  Jan 2016
  Muklilteo, WA

  Suzuki DL1000, Honda XR650R, KTM 250 XC-W
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Seems to me we are overestimating our abilities and are riding to what we perceive our abilities to be rather than accepting we are of average abilities and riding accordingly.
Even sadder, underestimating the capabilities of modern bikes and tires. It is sad to hear of a guy riding off the outside of a turn into a solid object because he got in hot, but probably could have made the turn had he just tried! A strong argument for track day training.
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Nov 10th 2019, 12:15 PM   #34
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  Apr 2016
  Olympia

  2014 KTM 690 / BMW R1150 GS
About half the people on the roads have no business driving, be it motorcycle or cars, ask any trucker, who can see exactly what every driver is doing, the cars with the dark windows are the worst...The majority of people are holding cell phones. And this is just one issue on the roads.. motorcycle riders are no different, except for cell phones. in fact they are more aggressive and ride much faster, don't follow the rules of the road in general.
That's why we have non stop accidents..
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