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Feb 9th 2018, 05:23 PM   #16
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  Jan 2016
  Puyallup

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Logic statements and hypotheticals are all good and fine when we all have time to dissect every scenario. We're all commenting, including myself, from the relative safety of our own little world.

Fight or flight is a real thing. Some people are hardwired to fight and some to flee.

IMO, it takes an incredible amount of fortitude to actually pull the trigger, or a lot of training to overcome the instinct not to.


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Feb 9th 2018, 07:53 PM   #17
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
i was 25 years active duty, and a cop for a few of those and the only time i ever shot at someone it was by accident, on the midwatch, with an M/79 grenade. i shot Panama, the country, from like half a mile off the beach. the sound was...pristine. Scared the SHIT outta everyone on the bridge because we were rigged for black. i was the stbd bridge wing rifle watch and i was the only one outside. playing quick draw with the launcher. i was 19. the thing went off. on its own. swear. BLAM - whoowhisssssstttllleeeeeeee....wait for it.....wait for it.....THUNKsssssss.....!

they yelled at me. hard. for a really long time. but i stayed on watch. they got me another grenade.

couldn't imagine having to point a gun at a human and shoot them. i'd do it. it think. but it would h ave to be REALLY necessary and I would run like hell first. if i could.

brave grrl.

i am sorry for the guy, his family. fuck.

Edited by Sentinel on Feb 9th 2018 at 07:55 PM
Feb 9th 2018, 08:08 PM   #18
 
  Jan 2016
  Lynnwood WA

  2007 Yamaha FZ6, 2008 Aprilia Tuono & 2009 Yamaha WR250R
She had her helmet on the whole time, so it's feasible he didn't know her gender. That being said, there are so many questions and not many answers yet. From what I read, she was pretty shook up and I can't imagine how the guy's wife is, being in their vehicle and witnessing the whole thing. No winners from confrontations like this, no matter who was in the wrong or right.
Feb 9th 2018, 08:31 PM   #19
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  Jan 2016
  Puyallup

  Yamaha FZ1, Aprilia RSV4 R
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Originally Posted by Sentinel
i was 25 years active duty, and a cop for a few of those and the only time i ever shot at someone it was by accident, on the midwatch, with an M/79 grenade. i shot Panama, the country, from like half a mile off the beach. the sound was...pristine. Scared the SHIT outta everyone on the bridge because we were rigged for black. i was the stbd bridge wing rifle watch and i was the only one outside. playing quick draw with the launcher. i was 19. the thing went off. on its own. swear. BLAM - whoowhisssssstttllleeeeeeee....wait for it.....wait for it.....THUNKsssssss.....!

they yelled at me. hard. for a really long time. but i stayed on watch. they got me another grenade.

couldn't imagine having to point a gun at a human and shoot them. i'd do it. it think. but it would h ave to be REALLY necessary and I would run like hell first. if i could.

brave grrl.

i am sorry for the guy, his family. fuck.


This is pretty much my point. You were/are trained and you still might hesitate. I know Marines are drilled and trained to the point that the vast majority of them do not think before pulling the trigger, it's ingrained into their psyche. They identify a threat and then neutralize said threat. She's obviously not a USMC vet, but my point is still the same. You're either programmed to fight or flee, I'm talking reptilian brain here, not higher brain.


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