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Aug 30th 2016, 06:54 PM   #1
 Kte43's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Tukwila

Riding to Vancouver BC

Hi, for those who had rode across the Canadian border before, is insurance required to cross the border or ride in BC?

Are there anything else I should be aware of?

Thsnks
Aug 30th 2016, 07:42 PM   #2
 Scribbles's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  NW

Insurance is required in BC, but that isnt something that they check at the border. You'll need something like a passport or enhanced drivers license to cross.

And leave your guns/weed at home.. Those will both cost you if you get caught with them at the border.
Aug 30th 2016, 09:40 PM   #3
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  Feb 2016
  Bellingham, WA

  Yamaha FZ-07
No mace or pepper spray either. They are really big on that for some reason.
Aug 31st 2016, 12:16 AM   #4
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  Feb 2016
  Seattle

  ZX14 Barking Spider
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And leave your guns/weed at home.. Those will both cost you if you get caught with them at the border.
They've got plenty of weed up there. No need to bring your own.

If you have a radar detector, it can't be used up there; stow it away. Also, no knives bigger than a Swiss Army knife more or less. And if you've ever had a DUI, you won't get across.

I've never been asked for proof of insurance, and I recall hearing that it's not required of foreign visitors, but don't quote me on that.
Aug 31st 2016, 05:16 AM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Moses Lake, WA

  2013 Kawasaki Concours C-14, 2005 ZX-10R Kawasaki (Nekkid), '99 Yamaha TW-200
blah blah blah, and don't forget their new 0 tolerance rule for speeding. 40KPH over, or 24 miles per hour, automatic 1 week impound and 1000 dollar fine. Have talked to a lot of BC bikers who say that is why they come down to the US, they have gone all Gestapo up there but mainly in the Vancouver Metro area. Some friends of mine got stopped for speeding, not much, but were detained for 2 hours before the RCMP figured out they did not need to provide proof of insurance before proceeding. And don't just assume your US insurance card will do. With my State Farm, I have to get a Canada specific form they print for me for free that is recognized up there. And not just DUI, any DV or Reckless will at the least get you detained in a little metal room for an hour or two. (Do't ask me how I know, and I was only traveling with a guy who had that). Ohhh, one more thing....prescription drugs , even if for toenail fungus, must be in the bottle with their corresponding currently dated prescrip label. No combining to save space. Most times you barely get looked at or asked the basic questions and are on your way, but even at small crossings you may get that one overzealous or bored guard and your trip will surely be memorable.
Aug 31st 2016, 09:16 AM   #6
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  Jan 2016
  NW

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And if you've ever had a DUI, you won't get across.
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And not just DUI, any DV or Reckless will at the least get you detained in a little metal room for an hour or two.
If you've had trouble with the law in the past, you should look into the rules.
Crimes That Will Make You Inadmissable to Canada ? ezbordercrossing.com

Even a 20 yo DUI can get you turned around at the border. They don't always check or ask "Have you ever been convicted of a crime." So you wouldn't get turned around automatically, but there is that chance. If you have a minor conviction that makes you inadmissible, you may be able to complete paperwork in advance to visit Canada.

Usually they ask 3 or 4 questions at the border, and say "Welcome to Canada."
Where are you from?
Where are you going?
How long will you stay?
Bringing any gifts?
How much alcohol/cigarettes are you bringing?
( I once had to pay tax/duty because I had too much alcohol in the truck for a week long camping trip. I think I had a case of beer and two bottles of wine, it cost me about $12 but what a hassle)

Most people get across the border with little hassle, but be aware that border guards (like cops) can do whatever they want. If you try to cross the border looking like an unbathed hippy, you might find it's more difficult. Many, many years ago I got turned around because the border guard didnt like how I looked.(young kid, leather jacket, old truck and $40 in my pocket) He didnt have a clear reason, and getting back into the US was a hassle too "You were denied entry to Canada? You need to come inside..." They checked me out and said "you have a clean background, I don't know why they turned you around.. welcome back to the states.". I drove an hour to the next border crossing, got asked the standard 4 questions, and entered Canada.

Edit> Now that I think about it, I was denied entry back into the US for some bullshit reason once.. They actually sent me (a US citizen) back to Canada. I've crossed the border at least 500 times, so having a few bad experiences is to be expected. I've heard stories of people who were suspected of smuggling drugs so the border guards completely dismantled their cars. Seats, door panels and the dash were removed and put in a pile. When they were done they were allowed to cross, but they weren't even allowed to use the tools to put their vehicle back together. They had to call a tow truck and take the vehicle to a shop to have it repaired.

Edited by Scribbles on Aug 31st 2016 at 11:37 AM
Aug 31st 2016, 02:39 PM   #7
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  Feb 2016
  Bellingham, WA

  Yamaha FZ-07
I have had them ask me if I had any firearms on many crossings. Pro tip: do not answer "sure, what do you want".
Aug 31st 2016, 02:57 PM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Tukwila

Thanks for all the tips. I've cross the border many times in a car, just never on the bike.

I'm more interested in the insurance issue if anyone has any more insights.

What about modded bikes? Would they turn you back for that?
Sep 1st 2016, 05:21 AM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Moses Lake, WA

  2013 Kawasaki Concours C-14, 2005 ZX-10R Kawasaki (Nekkid), '99 Yamaha TW-200
It is a crapshoot depending on which border guard you get and how their day is going.
Most of my bikes are heavily modded, but the only time I was questioned was trying to get back in, the US side guy wondered out loud, is that even legal to ride in the states? I said it was 3 days a go when I went to Canada...smile sheepishly, he grunted and waved me through.

Got asked by a brusque BC guard once if I had a Class 6 Motorcycle License. I said I do not know what that is, but as I was trying to add that if he looked at the back of my license i shows I can ride anything with wheels from 1 to 17, but he just interrupted and asked how long have I been riding? You mean today? No I said 38 years at the time..he waved me on.

One border dick asked if I owned any guns. I said that was not germane to the situation, I was not n POSESSION of any, whether I owned a frickin Howitzer was none of his business! I said I am American, from Eastern WA, yes, even my wife and dog own guns.

He just lectured me for another minute on their strict firearm laws and let me go,

I do not enjoy riding to Canada anymore.
Sep 1st 2016, 07:51 AM   #10
 Scribbles's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  NW

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kte43
Thanks for all the tips. I've cross the border many times in a car, just never on the bike.

I'm more interested in the insurance issue if anyone has any more insights.

What about modded bikes? Would they turn you back for that?
Insurance is required in WA and BC, but I've never been asked about it at the border. They don't care, it's a law enforcement issue.

Mods to your bike shouldn't be an issue either. The border agents are concerned about you and what you are bringing into the country.

pointless side note.. If you are American, driving a Canadian car into the US to get gas you may get hassled. I offered to gas up a friends vehicle once but was told at the border "We have to charge you duty on the car to cross, you should turn around instead." Gas is much cheaper in the US, so Canadians cross the border to fill up regularly. They also stock up on milk and cheese.. In some convenience stores, the milk and cheese cooler is as big as the soda coolers.

Edited by Scribbles on Sep 1st 2016 at 07:57 AM
Sep 1st 2016, 08:18 AM   #11
gas
 
  Aug 2016
  street

Question

How do they know of our people's history, such as DUI, 10 years - 20 years ago?
(also those who haven't even been to Canada ever before)

Did our own insurance companies and our government sold us?

Is there a valid U.S law or regulation to enable US private sectors and public sectors to do so?
Sep 1st 2016, 08:22 AM   #12
 Scribbles's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  NW

They have the ability to check your criminal record just like any other law enforcement agency. But they don't check everyone who crosses.
The US border agents also check Canadians for criminal offenses. My brother-in-law was unable to visit the US because of a minor assault conviction. He could have paid $300 for the paperwork but decided that visiting the states wasnt worth it.

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Is there a valid U.S law or regulation to enable US private sectors and public sectors to do so?
It's called the "freedom of information act".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedo...(United_States)

Edited by Scribbles on Sep 1st 2016 at 08:33 AM
Sep 1st 2016, 03:05 PM   #13
 Chrishil54's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Kirkland

  2009 V-Star 1100 Custom
One other thing, wear a full face helmet.
Sep 1st 2016, 04:17 PM   #14
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  Jan 2016
  In the past.

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Originally Posted by Chrishil54
One other thing, wear a full face helmet.
And be prepared to take it off. You will have to. I used to get hassled over some old work visa in CA but they finally cleared that up. I've crossed a few times on motorcycle and only been asked the usual guns/alcohol/cash/food questions. Nothing regarding insurance, although I was prepared to show them.
Sep 1st 2016, 11:31 PM   #15
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  Mar 2016
  Ferndale, WA

  '14 Ninja 300 SE
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Originally Posted by Scribbles
Insurance is required in WA and BC
It's not required in WA: WA State Licensing (DOL) Official Site: Mandatory insurance for drivers in Washington
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