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Aug 10th 2018, 09:39 AM   #1
 paradox206's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Des Moines

  M1200S, VFR800, XR650R & GSXR750
That one time twisting the throttle to get away from a tailgater backfired.

Here's the setup:

I was turning right to access the first onramp to 509 north. This is my route everyday for work and way too often people are doing 50mph by the end of the merge, so when I saw a slow Chevy Cavalier in front of me I decided to go around it, get back in the right lane and enter the freeway unobstructed. I took the on-ramp with purpose and when I reached the merge I noticed that the car was still pretty close behind me.

Typically, when I have a tailgater I'll just pull over and let them go by, but today I was running late for work and I didn't want to deal with any shenanigans, so I'm put my 1200s to work. I gave it some gas...80, still following me...90, still following me...100, still following me...110....tiny red and blue light bar appears....

I pulled over immediately and started stripping off my helmet and gloves. The officer approached me slowly and kindly asked for an explanation for my actions. I was shaking at this point, could barely get my explanation/reasoning out and handed over my information. He asked me to calm down, told me that I wasn't going to jail and that I was going to be surprised with how this situation was going to work out. He gave me a grandfather esque life lesson talk, said that I seem like a nice guy and sent me on my way with a handshake and a smile.

Long story short: From now on I'll be using the pull to the right/take an exit method to get away from a possible problem car rather than using the throttle. You never know when that possible problem car is just an under cover officer trying to get a better look at you. I wish I wasn't so frazzled, as I should have gotten his name to give him a good report to his department.

Edited by paradox206 on Aug 10th 2018 at 01:20 PM
Aug 10th 2018, 10:12 AM   #2
 1shinysideup's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  600RR
I take the same commute home, I've seen a couple of those cars, my rule of thumb is, the darker the tint the more I pay attention to it to make sure it's not the man..

you got lucky.
Aug 10th 2018, 10:18 AM   #3
 paradox206's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Des Moines

  M1200S, VFR800, XR650R & GSXR750
VERY lucky! I totally expected the worst when I pulled over, but running never crossed my mind (he thanked me for not doing so). Surprisingly, this car had no tint what so ever. It was an all white Cavalier with no markings or front push bumper. He was in full uniform, so when I passed him in the first place I would have seen it was an officer, but I also find that if you stare someone down when passing that can cause an aggro moment, so I didn't.

Yeah, I think I need to go back to the XR for commuting (it had an issue this week), as that thing keeps me out of trouble (especially since I can't wheelie).

Edited by paradox206 on Aug 10th 2018 at 10:21 AM
Aug 10th 2018, 10:20 AM   #4
 1shinysideup's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  600RR
no tint!? that's not fair..
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Aug 10th 2018, 10:53 AM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Here

  R1200ST, CB350
I was tailed by a cop in Salem in a white very ordinary sedan (i.e. not a plainclothes pursuit car like those gray Chargers you see on OR-30) as I was punching it in the left lane looking for an opening in the bumper-to-bumper right lane before the exit. He pulled me over for speeding but didn't ticket me because despite being uniformed he wasn't a patrolman and it wasn't his job; he just wanted to tell me to knock it off.
Aug 10th 2018, 10:54 AM   #6
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  Jan 2016
  Garden Home

  2012 Versys...'83 BMW R80 RT...Suzuki GS 450t
almost the same thing happened to me a long time ago...late at night this car gets on my bumber..yeah I was caging it..so I sped up a little...he stayed on my ass and i sped up a bit more...finally we caught up with traffic and this ass pulls into the right lane and races up..only to get stopped by traffic...then the lights come on and I get a ticket for following too close to the car in front of me...no smile..no handshake...
Aug 10th 2018, 12:55 PM   #7
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  Jun 2018
  LaCenter Washington

  83 Suzuki GS 1100E
For years I was a truck driver for Pacific Northwest Bell going Portland to Kent every night. On my way back I had a car tailing about 20! feet back at 60. Kept it’s left headlight in my mirror the whole way.Sped up to 70 slowed to 40 it stayed right there. Getting to just south of JBLM there are tall freeway lights down the center divider and in the distance in the left side of my lane was a dead deer. Barely could see it. The tailgater was still there so as I got close I eased to the right slightly,missed the deer and the tailgater didn’t. Boom,right over the top. I saw red spray everywhere. That car backed off a good hundred yards and didn’t get close again.
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Aug 11th 2018, 01:15 AM   #8
 
  Jun 2016
  Portland area

Dead deer stank stays with the car forever. Rot gets in all the nooks and crannies.

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Aug 11th 2018, 04:41 AM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Northeast Olalla

  07 Guzzi
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riki5156
For years I was a truck driver for Pacific Northwest Bell going Portland to Kent every night. On my way back I had a car tailing about 20! feet back at 60. Kept itís left headlight in my mirror the whole way.Sped up to 70 slowed to 40 it stayed right there. Getting to just south of JBLM there are tall freeway lights down the center divider and in the distance in the left side of my lane was a dead deer. Barely could see it. The tailgater was still there so as I got close I eased to the right slightly,missed the deer and the tailgater didnít. Boom,right over the top. I saw red spray everywhere. That car backed off a good hundred yards and didnít get close again.
That is not ne of the methods that I try to impress upon my students, but what a wonderful way to use a "target of opportunity."
Aug 11th 2018, 06:30 AM   #10
 MMcN49's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Small Island Surrounded by Puget Sound

  07 Buell XB12STT, (Two) 12 Suzuki DR650 SE 72BMWR75/5 KIA @ 243K
Last week on the road from Aberdeen to Westport I passed by a stopped WSP patrol car. I think the speed limit on the road where I passed him was either 50 or 55. I was doing a little North of 50, (51-52).

He pulled out and started following me. Not being absolutely certain what the actual speed limit was I backed off to 44 MPH. He stayed on my tail and followed me for miles. Checking the rear view mirror a couple times cars were backed up as far as I could see. He finally pulled over just before a 55 MPH speed limit sign.
Aug 11th 2018, 06:58 AM   #11
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
Quote:
Originally Posted by paradox206
... I saw a slow Chevy Cavalier in front of me I decided to go around it, .
Fun fact - Chevrolet means "cowboy" and Cavalier means.....you betcha "cowboy."

So, dude was driving a Cowboy Cowboy car.
Aug 11th 2018, 07:45 AM   #12
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  Apr 2016
  Kitsap

Similar thing happened to me a few years back. I'm going 70 in a 60 and this gold Chevy Lumina (no tint) starts getting too close to me so I give it a bit more throttle, increase the gap, then back it down to cruising at 70ish. He catches back up and gets too close again. We repeat this same dance multiple times over the next 10 miles.

Finally sick of it, I give it a slightly larger twist and take my exit. The Lumina lights me up. He claims he was trying to pace me for the 10 miles because he couldn't get a read on me with his radar. However, he was more than fine having confidence in his radar in the end by writing me up for 94 mph final twist. (If I do recall correctly, his radar did not catch my peak speed though.)

I now pay more attention to vehicles behaving like this no matter if it's a typical unmarked make/model or not.
Aug 11th 2018, 09:02 AM   #13
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  Jan 2016
  NW

Quote:
Originally Posted by paradox206
I wish I wasn't so frazzled, as I should have gotten his name to give him a good report to his department.
I don't know, if he was a traffic cop he should have lit you up at 70mph instead of pursuing you further. By escalating this to over 100 mph he contributed to a very dangerous situation.

Considering that an officer was recently killed by a police cruiser during a pursuit, you'd think they would be doing everything possible to avoid this. Instead, this officer provoked the speed.

Was your pass legal?
How close was he following you? What if you had to suddenly brake? Would he have hit you?
Is it acceptable for a cop to drive 100 mph without his lights on?
If the cop was not assigned to traffic, were his actions in the best interests of public safety, or was he simply abusing his power because he didnt like being passed?

Does he deserve a good report? or an admonishment?

At least you didnt get a gun shoved in your face.



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Edited by Scribbles on Aug 11th 2018 at 10:21 AM
Aug 11th 2018, 09:53 AM   #14
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  Jan 2016
  NW

Quote:
Originally Posted by paradox206
Long story short: From now on I'll be using the pull to the right/take an exit method to get away from a possible problem car rather than using the throttle. .
Also a good idea if the problem car is a road raged lunatic (with or without a badge) who might be willing to hit a motorcycle to "teach them a lesson".
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Aug 12th 2018, 04:00 AM   #15
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  Jan 2016
  Des Moines

  M1200S, VFR800, XR650R & GSXR750
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scribbles
I don't know, if he was a traffic cop he should have lit you up at 70mph instead of pursuing you further. By escalating this to over 100 mph he contributed to a very dangerous situation.

Considering that an officer was recently killed by a police cruiser during a pursuit, you'd think they would be doing everything possible to avoid this. Instead, this officer provoked the speed.

Was your pass legal?
How close was he following you? What if you had to suddenly brake? Would he have hit you?
Is it acceptable for a cop to drive 100 mph without his lights on?
If the cop was not assigned to traffic, were his actions in the best interests of public safety, or was he simply abusing his power because he didnt like being passed?

Does he deserve a good report? or an admonishment?

At least you didnt get a gun shoved in your face.



My guess is he was doing something related to the South Correctional Entity, so probably not from Seatac or Burien. He could have been WSP....I was just too in shock to catch those details. As for the pass, it was clean space wise, with signals, but I'm sure I was going over the speed limit when I went by (I only had a 1.5-2 blocks to pass him). I don't normally do that, but my frustration with slow pokes using this particular on-ramp got the best of me. I was probably doing 70 by the merge, so another 40mph on a long straight was probably done in 5-6 seconds (three mirror checks), as felt like I wanted space once he matched my speed on the on-ramp.

I've had some friends point out the same opinions and I find merit in them. I guess the fact that some of my encounters in the past have been so poor (no matter how respectful I was), that I'm thankful whenever they go well (and probably being closer to 50 than 20 helps).

Edited by paradox206 on Aug 12th 2018 at 04:02 AM
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