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Mar 8th 2017, 02:55 PM   #16
 ZREX MIKE's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Bonney Lake, WA

  ZRX
9/11/16................................2-fast day at The Ridge and I'm just "cruising" around. I didn't think I was going all that fast when I lost the front end going into turn 1. Unfortunately it's the fastest corner on the track and I suffered for it. I was wearing full BKS leathers, back protector, Gaerne boots, Arai helmet, and Scorpion SG3 gloves. The suit is pretty beat up, boots got a couple of scrapes, gloves look like new, and the helmet is beat and scraped (now retired) but no major impact area. I still have a bit of whiplash in the neck and back, and after some hardware surgery pretty much recovered from a broken left arm and dislocated wrist.

I had zero damage to my head, spine, or vertebrae and also no road rash so my gear did its job. I consider myself to be pretty lucky considering the speed and tumbling of the wreck. It could have been so much worse.
Apr 17th 2017, 09:04 PM   #17
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  Apr 2017
  Tacoma,Wa

Man so many. My last put me down for a year but was a blessing in disguise. Major high side, I don't remember much it happened so fast I couldn't stick it and recover. I remember sliding on my shoulder and face of my helmet asking myself if I could move my legs. The noise was louder than all the other crashes and I was in no pain which made me nervous. All in all I didn't take much damage. A cut off suit because my right quad swelled up like a balloon. At some point I lost consciousness.

Surreal, waking up wondering how you got someplace really really exists.

The doctors found a health issues that if not have been our went unnoticed would have killed me. No broken bones . Roughed up gear always.

Taking away . It was an off camber downhill turn and I apexed way too late and wayyyyy too soon on the throttle because I was out of sync .

Edited by TenacityRacing on Apr 17th 2017 at 09:07 PM
Apr 18th 2017, 07:24 AM   #18
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  Jan 2016
  Lebanon, OR

  2014 Interceptor, 2008 Ninja 250R (track)
2010 - A week after getting my license, riding some twisties on my Ninja 250. GMax helmet, Speed and Strength Textile jacket, Jeans, Danner boots. I panic brake into a corner full of gravel (total by the book target fixation and panic braking) and lowside. About 20-25mph.
Head was fine, jeans shredded and had some minor road rash. Left collarbone apparently fractured (didn't break all the way though) and minor damage to rotator cuff. No missed work, just pain in my left shoulder, I didn't find the other damage until later when a PT noticed it working with me for another injury.

2012 - PIR in the rain, lowsided on turn 9, going maybe 20mph. Alpinestars suit/boots, Gmax helmet. No injuries other than my pride.
2012 - Street. Lowsided on gravel, 25mph. Alpinestars leather suit. No injuries other than pride.

2015 - ORP. Counterclockwise. T5 into T4 I was really charging the corner and on/off/on the gas going into T5. Suspension was upset when I hit a seam off camber. Lowsided hard at 50 or so. Broke my right collarbone in three places. Hit on my right and slid on my stomach. Gear: Sedici Leathers. Speed and Strength gloves. Bell Helmet. Alpinestars boots. My helmet was worn pretty bad on the front from the slide, but the visor lock kept the visor in place.
Apr 19th 2017, 08:56 AM   #19
 Parilla125's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

The Ridge a couple years ago during a racing class. Full leathers, Bell Star Carbon helmet, Klim armored gloves.
Coming down off of 'The Ridge' hill on the big corner before the straight. It had been raining but had dried up. Well, except the last of the water running across the track in the middle of that corner...
Fastest I had hit the corner using the great info presented in the class. Heeled over, hanging off,,, felt MARVELOUS. Right up until the front tire hit that l i t t l e strip of water and the bike immediately and violently slammed down on it's left side using my leg as a cushion. Slid for a bit, slapped the ground to make sure I was stopped and got up, picked up the bike, got it going and drove back to the pits... Waited for a bit and loaded up, went home.
Left boot got scarred up, gouges across my 'Transitions' ($$$) face shield, left Klim glove had the palm Kevlar ripped half off. Gear definitely saved me from worse injury. Tried to polish out the face shield and discovered the 'Transitions' is a surface coating...

Edited by Parilla125 on Apr 19th 2017 at 08:58 AM
Apr 19th 2017, 01:17 PM   #20
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
Get-off details

Following a friend too closely, it turned out. Couldn't avoid a collision with rear of the bike in front. Sent me on a highside.

Travelling Slow-ish/Quick-ish?

Maybe 30 mph

Surface construction/condition?

Minimal light. Was dusk on wooded two lane rural road.

Hit the ground Light/Heavy?

I slammed down without bracing myself on my right arm, shoulder and head at the same time. A big heap. It was hard but I remained conscious but very dazed. It seemed like a dream.

Once on the ground I Slid/Tumbled how far?

I think I only slid a few feet.

What gear were you wearing?

Full face Scorpion Snell helmet. Padded two-piece leathers. Racing boots with armor. Heavy gaunlet gloves.

How well did your gear hold up?

No tears in the leather or destruction of the gear. The gloves did tear but protected my skin.

Did it in your opinion save your ass?

It made a big difference having gear. I got a sprained and out-of-joint thumb, a right forearm fracture and my foot was crushed under the bike when it fell. My toe was jammed and my foot bruised and tender, but it would have been broken in many places without a strong boot.

My helmet held up, but I went to a non-Snell helmet after this. I don't think I should have gotten such a severe concussion at that speed if it had a less stiff inner foam core, as the Euro standard has. A concussion is serious. I was throwing up the next day and weeks later I temporarily lost my memory. It was a year before I stopped having symptoms when I would move my head rapidly.

What would you recommend or warn other riders about any of the gear you were wearing?

Non Snell full-face helmet. Heavily armored boots. Very armored and thick gloves. Good armor in good leathers. Perhaps a chest and back protector under your leathers.

Edited by Transported on Apr 20th 2017 at 09:01 AM
Apr 19th 2017, 08:00 PM   #21
 DocB's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Poulsbo, WA

  Aprilia RSV Mille, CB77, CB750K, CB750F
Quote:
Perhaps a chest and back protector under your leathers.
No crash info to share, but an observation. My first jacket getting back into riding four years ago was a Euro 52 Dainese Zen Evo with Dianese armor and a Forcefield level 2 back protector pad of the type that fits into the back pocket of the jacket. It's a very nice fit. A while back I decided that a separate back protector might cover a lot more of my back. I've had a Spidi Air back, a Bohn Pro racer and currently use a Forcefield Pro Sub 4. Both of the jackets I use now are Euro 54 and they are a snug fit over any of the three back protectors. I also got a sweet deal on a Forcefield chest/rib protector along with the Sub 4. I might take a run at Bonneville this year and I thought it might be prudent to add as much protection as I can. But damned if I can breathe with that thing shoved inside my size 54 jacket. Might have to try a 56. So, long story short, you might need to size up if you add more strap on style back/chest/rib armor.
Apr 20th 2017, 12:13 AM   #22
 Squidly's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Bothell

Quote:
Originally Posted by Parilla125
Klim glove had the palm Kevlar ripped half off.
This has happened to me a few times with Klim gloves. IMO their stitching is too weak
Aug 18th 2017, 03:27 PM   #23
 
  Jan 2016
  Newcastle, WA

  1995 Suzuki Katana
Nearing the end of summer bump...

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Aug 18th 2017, 03:38 PM   #24
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Dragon
yesterday coming back from Rainier (but not Windy Ridge...) northbound on I5 I was behind a Harley Bro who was rigged for touring/camping (sleeping bag on sissy bar etc) in the right lane near the Tacoma Mall where youmerge right to go onto 16. A commercial van (some kind of cleaning company) merged left from a ramp and got between me and Bro. I slowed to let him in.

So, van-dude wants to move left BAD. It is obvious he doesn't want to go to Kitsap and traffic is full-lock in the other lanes. An apparent hole opens up oh so briefly. Dude sees it forming and looks left and gasses it all at once. He hasn't changed lanes yet, but he is in the process of sending nerve impulses to his hands to start turning the wheel left. But, and this matters, he has already started accelerating, assuming he will move left and shoot into the forming gap.

Two things happened at the same time: someone moved RIGHT into the gap, foreclosing Van Dudes option, AND the guy in front of Harley Bro hit the brakes.

All at once Bro hits the brakes hard and Van Dude sees the impending negligent homicide. Dude whips the van left and hits the brakes hard. Van rooooocks forward and the rear tires skid and hop as he clusterfucks himself into the next-left lane maybe half an inch from Bros license plate.

I tested my brakes. Note: Kawasaki Concours anti-lock: works.

Bro never saw it. He was focused on the bumper in front of him and not the one behind him.

I screamed like a girl in my helmet, just for a sec. More of a "whoop".

I've never seen someone come so close to death, and not know it.

Makes you wonder. Right?

Edited by Sentinel on Aug 18th 2017 at 03:41 PM
Aug 18th 2017, 09:28 PM   #25
 craiger's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Molalla

  2007 Aprilia Tuono Factory, 2010 Honda VFR 1200f DCT
yesterday coming back from Rainier (but not Windy Ridge...) northbound on I5 I was behind a Harley Bro who was rigged for touring/camping (sleeping bag on sissy bar etc) in the right lane near the Tacoma Mall where youmerge right to go onto 16. A commercial van (some kind of cleaning company) merged left from a ramp and got between me and Bro. I slowed to let him in.

So, van-dude wants to move left BAD. It is obvious he doesn't want to go to Kitsap and traffic is full-lock in the other lanes. An apparent hole opens up oh so briefly. Dude sees it forming and looks left and gasses it all at once. He hasn't changed lanes yet, but he is in the process of sending nerve impulses to his hands to start turning the wheel left. But, and this matters, he has already started accelerating, assuming he will move left and shoot into the forming gap.

Two things happened at the same time: someone moved RIGHT into the gap, foreclosing Van Dudes option, AND the guy in front of Harley Bro hit the brakes.

All at once Bro hits the brakes hard and Van Dude sees the impending negligent homicide. Dude whips the van left and hits the brakes hard. Van rooooocks forward and the rear tires skid and hop as he clusterfucks himself into the next-left lane maybe half an inch from Bros license plate.

I tested my brakes. Note: Kawasaki Concours anti-lock: works.

Bro never saw it. He was focused on the bumper in front of him and not the one behind him.

I screamed like a girl in my helmet, just for a sec. More of a "whoop".

I've never seen someone come so close to death, and not know it.

Makes you wonder. Right?


Great story, and so many more just like it that go unreported or even noticed. It's almost a daily thing for me, as I commute 60 miles a day in PDX. The I'm-in-hurry-so-fuck-everyone-else guys/gals are everywhere. There are hundreds of thousands more cars and trucks on the road than just a few years ago. It has come to the point of survival. Survival of the fittest, the quickest, those with the quickest reaction times, the best reflexes, those who've invested time and energy into their riding skills, equipment, maintenance, etc.

For those that are on the fence about lane splitting; this is a prime example in support of it. But try telling that to a legislator. Perhaps putting said "lawmaker" on the back of a bike in rush hour traffic in downtown SEA or PDX. Scare the law right into em. And the opponents of lane splitting; I say, "fuck you", it's about survival, and I will do whatever it takes to be a drain on society as long as possible.
Aug 23rd 2017, 10:25 AM   #26
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  Apr 2016
  Auburn, WA

  ...1987 Yamaha FZR1000...
It happened in 2006. Location: Hwy 89A, a few miles up from Jerome, Arizona.

I had been up and down that fantastic road hundreds of times. I was heading back toward Jerome and had just begun standing the bike up to take one of the very few straights on that piece of road. For those that know the road, it is one that is the only legal passing zone between Jerome and Grass Valley.

I saw it as it leapt up onto the pavement from the shrubbery on the downhill side; a four-point buck (eight-point to you easterners). I tried to swerve behind it as it ran, but i slammed him hard in the ass. The impact spun the buck around 360 degrees as he skittered alongside me. He then slammed against the mountainside as I went past. It was only then that I realized that my hands had been knocked from the handlebars and the bar was beating my fuel tank; making a strange thumping sound as it oscillated rapidly. The bike was headed toward open air and I didn't want to go with it. I bailed off onto the pavement and tried to stay flat on my back. Something caught and I tumbled for I don't know how many times. When I came to a stop, I found myself lying on my face; my feet hanging out in space from the knees down.

Once I gathered myself together, no broken bones, I looked for my bike. It had hit a tree about twenty feet up from the base and had then fallen into the rocks about forty feet down from the road surface. It was totaled and would later be unceremoniously dragged up by a tow truck and dropped onto the bed; bleeding fluids.

After talking to a passer-by to ask for help, I checked my body and gear. Helmet, untouched; apparently I had kept my head off of the ground. Leather pants, with no armor, torn open at the knee and one butt-cheek almost worn through. Leather jacket, with no armor, torn open at the elbow and scuffed everywhere else. Heavy hiking boots, beaten but serviceable. Leather gloves, no armor, one worn through the palm to skin but the palm underneath untouched.

My body: Left elbow abraded to the bone and tendons; the flesh full of little rocks. My abraded knee; much the same. Head and hands were just fine. Back and butt, sore from impact but otherwise OK. Feet hurt like hell and later swelled-up and turned blue. My right foot took two years to regain feeling across the top. Apparently when I went rag-doll, my feet had beaten themselves against the ground several times.

The gear could have been better, and I certainly could have been riding more slowly, but I'm just happy to be able to write about it now. I still ride in full gear.

Edit: another interesting tidbit: The buck's antlers managed to pierce my seat just behind where my left butt-cheek sat. He also shit all over me and the right side of my bike; can't blame him.

Edited by curve addict on Aug 23rd 2017 at 10:37 AM Reason: More info
Sep 5th 2017, 03:43 PM   #27
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  Jan 2016
  Des Moines

  M1200s, VFR800 & GSXR750
Yay, I can fill this out now!!! (maybe I shouldn't be so excited...)

Get-off details

- I ran out of talent coming into T1 @ The Ridge. I came in too shallow while passing some people, my brakes started pulsing something fierce, I target fixated for a moment at the outside edge and then I locked the front brake. Lowside and finished!

Travelling Slow-ish/Quick-ish?

- 80mph+

Surface construction/condition?

- Track and then dirt.

Hit the ground Light/Heavy?

- I’m not sure really. It all happened so fast…

Once on the ground I Slid/Tumbled how far?

- I probably slid 15 feet and then tumbled a couple times once I hit the dirt.

What gear were you wearing?
- I was wearing an AGV Sport Podium 1-piece suit, Racer R-Safe Gloves, SIDI Mag-1 boots, Alpinestars Nucleon KR-R Race Back Protector, Bilt Dominator Armored Shorts and a Shoei RF-1100

How well did your gear hold up?
- Everything held up great! I’ll break it down piece by piece.

AGV suit: The suit looks like it was a gentle off. I slid on my left side and most of the damage happened to the hip area. The logo took most of the damage while a secondary stitch right next to it came undone (3” of it or so). Not too bad considering I ground off ” of slider before I hit the dirt.

Racer R-Safe Gloves: These too did an excellent job, but I think they’re pretty much one and done. There were no holes, but the secondary layer of protection on the right palm is shot. The Knox sliders did an excellent job and I only have a slightly sore right wrist even though it looks like I put my hand down hard. I’ll probably keep on wearing them as street gloves, but no longer at the track. I’ll be ordering another pair before next season.

SIDI Mag-1 boots: I have no foot pain, so they must have done their job. Some of the plastic bits got worn down, but I don’t have to replace anything. The little reels that cinch up the boots did fill up with dirt/dust though, which made them difficult to un-reel. I’m guessing I’m going to have to fiddle with them a bit to get them back to 100%.

A* back protector: I don’t think this came into play, but my back is A-OK.

Bilt Dominator Shorts: I know, I know…Bilt. My AGV suit didn’t come with any hip protection though and based on my only other off, hip protection is important. Honestly, I’m very thankful that I had them on. I hit the ground hip first and I only can feel that it was bruised when I push on it. When I wrecked without hip protection I was limping for a week. $30 very well spent (and they’re still 100% functional).

Shoei RF-1100: This only briefly touched the ground while I was tumbling. There were some scratches on the face shield but that was about it. If my head did bounce at all the helmet did it’s job, cause I saw no stars or felt no head pain during or afterwards. Thankfully it was old and ready to be retired.

Did it in your opinion save your ass?
- Most definitely!

What would you recommend or warn other riders about any of the gear you were wearing?
- I would recommend all of the gear I was wearing. I do now see where an air suit would come in handy though. While I didn’t break anything, the tumbling definitely does a number on your shoulders and I’m guessing an air bag would have helped. I’ll be considering one in the future, but will keep on wearing my AGV for now!
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Edited by paradox206 on Sep 19th 2017 at 03:40 PM
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