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Jul 18th 2018, 05:55 PM   #1
 Andonon's Avatar
 
  Jul 2018
  Mill Creek

  06 SV650S
Exclamation Be careful behind fire trucks! Close call!

Kind of a note to self here. Stopped traffic on NB I5 at Mountlake Terrace. WSP unmarked three stripe is sitting in the middle lane goofing up traffic. Why r u not in the caroool like all the other wsp. Creep!

So I hear this fire truck about 1000 yds back ( with my Howard Leight earplugs in and Shoei Gt Air. ) So I camped and pointed at him just to be safe. He passed. Nobody is moving. Me an another biker pull out into the carpool and Accelerate to 40. We were staggered, me in rear right, 40 feet. 200 yards to the fire truck. I glance to my right as he passed this lady and wham this lady came right on over, accelerating to 30. Fortunately I had my wits about me and I just followed her left mirror to the left fog line. Pretty smooth. I was ok. Didnít panic. About 4 inches clearance at 40 mph. Afterwards I had the whole shoulder to rest in, pretty easy get out, and lucky. I swear twist of the wrist (the book) just saved my life. I passed her and slowed down. She proceeded to road rage me by pointing at the fire truck.

Be careful out there. Note to self. Just stay the heck away from fire trucks. People are looking at the fire truck and totally lose it. They do not see you.

Edited by Andonon on Jul 18th 2018 at 06:05 PM Reason: Swear word, oops, typos.
Jul 18th 2018, 07:07 PM   #2
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  Jan 2016
  Washington County

  H-D
Some questions for you please. I don't know the area to which you are referring since I live in Oregon.
- Am I correct to assume the fire engine was travelling with lights and siren on?
- Did the fire engine take the next exit or keep on going?
- Did the fire engine pass you on your left?
- It sounds like the fire engine passed the lady on her left and then she merged back into your lane.
Jul 18th 2018, 07:18 PM   #3
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  Jul 2018
  Mill Creek

  06 SV650S
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Originally Posted by 307T
Some questions for you please. I don't know the area to which you are referring since I live in Oregon.
- Am I correct to assume the fire engine was travelling with lights and siren on?
- Did the fire engine take the next exit or keep on going?
- Did the fire engine pass you on your left?
- It sounds like the fire engine passed the lady on her left and then she merged back into your lane.
All yes, plus it kept going and exited to the left 1 mike up. I felt prepared, and I didnít feel stunned until well after it happened. It happened quick, hence my other post about a camera. Hindsite, I feel I spent like 70 cents real quick with the traffic and the cop and the other biker and the fire truck cost everyone lots of cents! This wasnít her fault, I was just sayin, fire trucks make it crazy. That other biker went cruising up on the fire truck! I thought I was being more cautious. Note to self.

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Jul 18th 2018, 08:31 PM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  Washington County

  H-D
Thanks for including the photo link. It sounds to me like everything happened as it should right up until the lady merged into your lane. That WAS her fault for an unsafe lane change. Emergency vehicles create tunnel vision in rubber-necked drivers. If you think what happened to you is unusual, think again. Driving a fire engine to an emergency through traffic is a challenge. You can never be sure exactly if a motorist or cyclist even hears you or what they will do. I've seen a driver come to a complete stop in their lane...in front of the fire engine...instead of pulling over to the right.

Edited by 307T on Jul 18th 2018 at 08:36 PM
Jul 19th 2018, 05:55 AM   #5
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  Jul 2018
  Mill Creek

  06 SV650S
Was it her fault?

I agree on some front. She pulled out. But I donít agree that it was her fault. That was my fault for not being prepared. If it was her fault, impo, I should sell my bike and never ride again, because Iím gonna die soon. They donít see you. Donít lie to yourself. Always ride like they donít see you. No fault. It just is what it is.
Jul 19th 2018, 08:36 AM   #6
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  Feb 2016
  Seattle

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I agree on some front. She pulled out. But I don’t agree that it was her fault. That was my fault for not being prepared. If it was her fault, impo, I should sell my bike and never ride again, because I’m gonna die soon. They don’t see you. Don’t lie to yourself. Always ride like they don’t see you. No fault. It just is what it is.
I suspect if drivers started getting charged with vehicular homicide or assault when they crash into motorcyclists, we would see a big change in drivers behavior. The language is pretty straight forward.

(RCW 46.61.520)

(1) When the death of any person ensues within three years as a proximate result of injury proximately caused by the driving of any vehicle by any person, the driver is guilty of vehicular homicide if the driver was operating a motor vehicle:
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(c) With disregard for the safety of others.


When I am driving a car I am constantly on the look out for motorcycles and I see every single one of them. We need everybody to drive in that manner, and if you either A can't see well enough to do so, or B can't focus your attention while driving a steel cage, then we don't need you driving.
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Jul 19th 2018, 10:43 AM   #7
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  Jan 2016
  Washington County

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Sher pulled out. But I donít agree that it was her fault.
Actually, it was her fault. And good for you for always trying to anticipate the next move from people who are careless or just plain don't see you. I can tell you though that not every situation that you find yourself in will be avoidable. Motorcycling, like much of life, has its risks.
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