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Jul 22nd 2018, 06:34 PM   #1
 Longrides's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Skagit Valley

  2007 Ducati Multistrada
Cagers going well below the speed limit.

Went on a ride today and had a car not want to move over on a mountain highway that had plenty of pull off spots, even after I flashed my headlamps before each pull off.

What do you guys do in this situation?

It really frustrated me due to the fact that one another really popular highway I ride the cagers almost always move over for motorcycles.

What made it worse for me was it just happen to be jack wad eh landers.��
Jul 22nd 2018, 07:04 PM   #2
 uhoh's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Tri-Cities, dry side of Washington

  Kawasaki C-14
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Originally Posted by Longrides
What do you guys do in this situation?
Well - I've never done this, nor have my riding friends - but I've observed some Harley riders
would pass (irregardless) when behind a slow vehicle and the passing lane hadn't yet made its appearance.
Jul 22nd 2018, 08:56 PM   #3
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  Feb 2016
  Seattle

Just pass them. I’ll kick it down to 3rd if their rate of travel is particularly egregious. Chances of pulling off an illegal pass in front of a cop for me at least is once every 14 years or thereabouts.
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Jul 22nd 2018, 09:25 PM   #4
 
  Jan 2016
  Renton

  2011 Triumph Daytona 675, 1975 Honda CB550K1
I Just create my own passing zone when it's safe. You know alot of those double yellows used to be dotted, until someone who didn't know what they were doing got themselves pasted. Some rules were meant to be broken.

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Jul 22nd 2018, 10:01 PM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

What made it worse for me was it just happen to be jack wad eh landers.

It might be because I am old, but I have no idea what that is...

We were in the cage today and followed a number of people that were going at least 10 below the posted on two lane roads to and from the coast. What the?!?! Must be 'slow' day or something.
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Jul 22nd 2018, 11:18 PM   #6
 
  Jan 2016
  Renton

  2011 Triumph Daytona 675, 1975 Honda CB550K1
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Originally Posted by Parilla125
What made it worse for me was it just happen to be jack wad eh landers.

It might be because I am old, but I have no idea what that is...

We were in the cage today and followed a number of people that were going at least 10 below the posted on two lane roads to and from the coast. What the?!?! Must be 'slow' day or something.
Firms up the meaning of "Sunday drivers" doesn't it?

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Jul 23rd 2018, 06:16 AM   #7
 Sentinel's Avatar
 
  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
it's the Fuck You generation of MAGA cellphone zombies...

dons helmet...

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Jul 23rd 2018, 07:07 AM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Northeast Olalla

  07 Guzzi
Quote:
Originally Posted by Longrides
Went on a ride today and had a car not want to move over on a mountain highway that had plenty of pull off spots, even after I flashed my headlamps before each pull off.

What do you guys do in this situation?

It really frustrated me due to the fact that one another really popular highway I ride the cagers almost always move over for motorcycles.

What made it worse for me was it just happen to be jack wad eh landers.��
Pull the heck over, enjoy the scenery for about 20 minutes, and then head on out, possibly at a bit more relaxed pace.
Jul 23rd 2018, 08:49 AM   #9
 
  Mar 2016
  Seattle

  '14 KTM Duke 690, '08 BMW K12GT, '05 BMW R12ST
I wouldn't have been behind the slow guy long enough to flash my lights.

Keep in mind that double yellows are no-passing zones, they apply to ALL vehicles. You can pass one car in a tenth the space a typical car would need to make the same pass. If the double lines were created for bikes only, would there have been one where you need to pass?

Get by, get on with it. As long as your pass is not thru a congested area or an intersection, or done at an unreasonable speed, as long as you're not riding like a complete squid . . . I doubt a county-mountie will bat an eye at you.
Jul 23rd 2018, 09:27 AM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  An Ape and a Husky
You'll figure out what action suits your riding style the best and soon...
Jul 23rd 2018, 09:29 AM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  Travelling around the NW

  Triumph Bonnezilla, Little Ninja
Larry's got a valid point. Stop, take a leak, enjoy the scenery, drink some water if you have it. Ideally at a pull-out where you can see a ways back. When you're ready to go again, *wait* and give yourself a nice 2-5min gap behind the last car to pass you and then take off. You can also get in the habit of actually going the speed limit in the straight bits of an otherwise twisty section. Going fast all the time just means you're going to wind up behind someone more often.

I'm sure we've all done the "pass on double yellow and flip the bird" a time or two. But creating space in front of you is safer in a couple ways. You're not making a sketchy pass. You're not riding with the red mist. And there's less chance you'll wind up with a double gravel truck in front of you after 2 more corners.

Also, go to a track day and learn you fast you really aren't.

In other news, I would love to see a "use the fucking slow vehicle pullouts" emphasis patrol in the early summer.
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Edited by Burphel on Jul 23rd 2018 at 09:36 AM
Jul 23rd 2018, 10:32 AM   #12
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
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Originally Posted by Burphel
... give yourself a nice 2-5min gap behind the last car to pass you and then take off.

...Also, go to a track day and learn you fast you really aren't.
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1) To "wait for a 2-5 minute gap" there has to BE a 2-5 minute gap.

2) The track aint the street.

Jul 23rd 2018, 10:39 AM   #13
 
  Jan 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Longrides
Went on a ride today and had a car not want to move over on a mountain highway that had plenty of pull off spots, even after I flashed my headlamps before each pull off.

What do you guys do in this situation?

It really frustrated me due to the fact that one another really popular highway I ride the cagers almost always move over for motorcycles.

What made it worse for me was it just happen to be jack wad eh landers.��
Congratulations on surviving your encounter with the Anti-Destination League. Their infamy is legendary throughout the world. Driven by obliviousness, ego, pride, entitlement, and/or competitiveness, their rudeness knows no bounds. Fortunately, it sounds like you at least didn't encounter a member of their militant wing. Those are the fuckers who will use their vehicle as a tank, in order to win (don't get me started about the Panzer Frau in her red VW Panzer Kampfwagen MK VIII Jetta Tiger Tank).

When dealing with such folks, I try to remember the words of a wiser individual: "You can't control what others do, only what you do". Yes, you can try passing, but what one person considers a safe passing opportunity, another may consider it to be an asinine one. We are all capable of deciding for ourselves what risks we want to take. If deciding "No Joy in Passville", then short of pulling out a Daisy Red Ryder and putting a tire out with an icicle (careful you might put out your own eye), you really only have a couple of options. The first I'd advise, is just slow down and try to enjoy the ride for what it currently is. If nothing else, try to enjoy the scenery. If that doesn't work for you, then TexasL's advice is the better option. Sometimes, it is worth your while to just pull over, and enjoy the scenery. Also, as mentioned already, it is a wonderful time for a water break (both upload and download).

Just my philosophy. Do as you please.
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Jul 23rd 2018, 11:31 AM   #14
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  Jan 2016
  renton aka the dirty south

  Suprduke990 / Tiger800 / 625sumo / TE300 / 12wr450 / 03wr450 / wr250 / CB350 / XR100 / CRF50 / TTR50
1. Apply throttle
2. Watch problems disappear in your mirrors.
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Jul 23rd 2018, 11:41 AM   #15
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  Jan 2016
  Here

My favorite are the ones who're offended by your existence and not only slow down but periodically brake check you, even when you're at a distance.

One day I'm about to turn left onto Vancouver Ave in Portland, in a section that's one lane, one way plus a big bike lane. I signal my left well in advance and the very, very slow moving VW Tiguan in front of me suddenly decides he wants to turn there too, so he's still ahead of me turning left. We proceed down the road, me trying to leave a brake gap but he's at 9mph and falling, as well as almost pulsing his speed by alternating brakes and accelerator, etc. We're talking major fuckedintheheadedness here. Seriously, he eventually crawls to the point where I have to put my boots on the asphalt. Needless to say, no traffic of any kind, no pedestrians, no bicyles, nothing to remotely justify this. We're talking serious Moto-Triggered Tiny Penis Disorder here.

The sensible thing would be to turn at the first opportunity and get away from this idiot and I think now I would, but this was kind of a first and I couldn't resist passing illegally (wouldn't have been in California!) with a raised clutch hand finger at him the whole way. More proof that he was doing it on purpose in that he laid on the horn before I even started the pass, showing that he was watching for it. More proof is that he instantly lost his fondness for the brake pedal and matched my 25-ish speed immediately. I turned at the next interesection anyway because A) fuck him and B) would you want him behind you?
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