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Jul 17th 2018, 10:32 AM   #1
 WarpShatner7's Avatar
  Jan 2016

  R1200ST, CB350
Motorcycle fatality on 202

A favorite road of this forum's riders, mentioned a lot lately.

Motorcyclist dies on Highway 202 - Local News - The Daily Astorian

A moment of silence, and let's be careful out there. Ride within your abilities and sight distance.
Jul 17th 2018, 11:11 AM   #2
  Jan 2016
  Lynnwood WA

  2007 Yamaha FZ6, 2008 Aprilia Tuono & 2009 Yamaha WR250R
R.I.P. rider, stay safe out there gang....
Jul 17th 2018, 04:09 PM   #3
 WarpShatner7's Avatar
  Jan 2016

  R1200ST, CB350
This is kinda making me think about how I ride relatively empty winding roads: I get impatient when I'm behind a car too long because -- like most of us I'm sure -- I like to control my own pace and have a bit of open road in front of me if possible, and that's why I'm on that road instead of another one.

Then you get the car that slows way down in the double-yellows, and nails it on the straights, sometimes cancelling out your opportunity to pass even though you've got six times its power/weight ratio. After a few miles of this you're getting bored, it's detracting from your enjoyment of the ride, so next chance you get you pass even if it's such a narrow opportunity that you're going to be on the wrong side of the solid line and heading into a curve by the time you get back into your lane. Sure you can do it. But you ate most of your safety margin in the process and anything that goes wrong -- a road hazard, a deer -- is gonna be trouble.

Well, that's what's got me thinking at the moment.
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Jul 17th 2018, 05:24 PM   #4
 DKBOM's Avatar
  May 2016

  2001 Aprilia SL1000 Falco
Aweful. Just rode 202 Saturday. I wonder where the accident occurred? RIP rider.
Jul 17th 2018, 06:43 PM   #5
 ltlpagan's Avatar
  Jan 2016
  Vancouver WA

  2010 Ducati Monster 696
Just rode this Sunday. You do have to choose your passing opportunities carefully on it for sure.
RIP rider
Jul 17th 2018, 11:23 PM   #6
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  Feb 2016

I ended up behind a city bus tonight (still light out), where I've never seen one in all the years living here (35), for 3 miles.
It felt like 10, maybe it was only 2 or 1.5, then the bus finally pulled over to a bus stop, actually blocking 3/4 of the lane.
This is on the outskirts of town where the road starts to wind and get fun.
10 years ago, I woulda been seeking a questionable opportunity to pass, merely out of frustration of being held up, but this time, I exercised restraint, which is really tough, as we all know.
The bus was going 5-7mph under the limit on a road, where 15-20 over would be just "touring".

I can completely relate to what Warp is thinking, it happens every time we get held up by someone on the road in front.
I don't want to be on that person's "program", dictating how my ride will end up, just get by and be done with the spoiler of everything fun and good.
I guess I have to thank trackdays (Class, PSSR, OPRT) for calming me down on the street. 30 is too young to go to the daisy's.
Jul 18th 2018, 02:50 PM   #7
 Sentinel's Avatar
  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2013 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 Harlequin
most of the time, especially on weekend rides, I actually think of riding as "gonna go out and pass some cars" because it always turns into that - just riding around, passing cars.

my new thing is - I still love motorcycles, but i don't love the road any more.
Jul 19th 2018, 08:12 PM   #8
 Greg's Avatar
  Apr 2016

  L3 GSX-R750, Versys LT
R.I.P. rider.

Backroad riding I try not to form a habit of "needing" to pass and waiting for good visibility. It's easy to get in a rhythm when you need to instead treat each pass individually

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Jul 19th 2018, 08:20 PM   #9
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  Feb 2016
  Bellingham, WA

  Yamaha FZ-07
I am VERY careful passing cars. I had four guys pull over to let me pass on Chuckanut Drive today. It is nice to have cagers being courteous.
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Jul 20th 2018, 05:05 AM   #10
  Apr 2017

One reason I downsized from a liter bike to my V-Strom is that it forces me to think about passing more. The 110+ hp of my previous bike was bad for my sense of caution and I'm just lucky I survived it.
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Jul 20th 2018, 09:18 AM   #11
 Bald Guy's Avatar
  Jan 2016

  KTM SAR Husqvarna Strada, Ural Patrol and a shit load of BN125
Originally Posted by juanitotheclumsy
One reason I downsized from a liter bike to my V-Strom is that it forces me to think about passing more. The 110+ hp of my previous bike was bad for my sense of caution and I'm just lucky I survived it.
I agree. The temptation to use power to pass, even when you know you shouldn't is very, very tempting.

Restraining yourself can be tough, but you gotta do it sometimes.
Jul 20th 2018, 12:42 PM   #12
 WarpShatner7's Avatar
  Jan 2016

  R1200ST, CB350
Just took this road yesterday, Westbound. The good bit is definitely between Jewell and Olney -- I would seriously like to use this road to break in a bike, it's just hilly enough to decently load up an engine without demanding high revs -- but it's almost defined by brief passing opportunities adjacent to blind, varying radius curves, and if you don't see elk every time you ride it it's because you're not looking.

Edited by WarpShatner7 on Jul 20th 2018 at 12:44 PM
Jul 20th 2018, 04:51 PM   #13
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  Apr 2018

  Yamaha 650
Warrenton man who died in motorcycle crash remembered at vigil - Local News - The Daily Astorian

So sad, having over overcoming some tough things in his life. Motorcycle induced adrenalin can be a awesome and highly effective therapy for substance abuse, but you have to always gear up and expect the unexpected. I have had similar situations where I had plenty of sight line but had a cager pop out from a hidden driveway. And with conspicuity lights blazing and yards of high-viz clothing I tell myself "surely they won't pull out", and yet they do.
Other than motorcyclists and dogs (and the occasional cat) I'm pretty much a misfit. It pains me to hear about another loss of someone in the community.

Ride safe everyone.
Jul 20th 2018, 06:06 PM   #14
 Sentinel's Avatar
  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2013 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 Harlequin
Originally Posted by WarpShatner7
I would seriously like to use this road to break in a bike, it's just hilly enough to decently load up an engine without demanding high revs --
I think we over-think breakin on modern bikes.

I saw videos of Honda, Kawasaki, and BMW and they rev every engine to redline right in the factory.

I think breakin (in the way we used to do it) is a thing of the past.

Maybe the best part of the breakin meme is that it causes riders to take it easy for a while on a new bike. Maybe what gets broken-in is the riders brain, figuring out the nuances of the new ride.

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Jul 20th 2018, 06:58 PM   #15
 WarpShatner7's Avatar
  Jan 2016

  R1200ST, CB350
Oh no, please tell me I didn't open the break-in pandora's box, and if I did, will spilling the lifegiving oil of a virgin standard motorcycle by piercing its crankcase with a solid silver center punch blessed by Soichiro Honda by the full moon on a mountaintop altar cause it to close again?
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