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Feb 18th 2016, 08:57 PM   #1
 liberpolly's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Triumph Street Twin
Triumph Street Twin

Just got brand new Street Twin. Not a speed demon by any means, just what I needed.

First, the things I don't like:

1. Mirrors don't have enough reach to show what's behind me. Will look for bar-ends.

2. Not having tachometer is weird, but mostly psychologically - I shift by feeling anyway.

3. I wish the bike would remember that I want the digital display to show the clock, not the mileage. It forgets after every shutdown.

Things that I like:

1. Subjectively, it just feels amazingly "right". Nothing is off, nothing is distracting, but the bike doesn't disappear either. Perfect compromise between smooth and rough.

2. Torque is amazing.

3. Fueling is very good. No snatchy throttle of the previous year Bonneville. Very smooth start, very quick buildup, no stalling, and no surprises.

4. Suspension is good. It's not world class, but it's very good for city riding. No complains yet.

5. Handling is very good. Very easy to drop into a turn, very stable in the turn. I stopped thinking about it after 15 minutes, and the rest of the day was just riding telepathically. Really, it feels like it reads my mind. The only other bike that felt the same was Ninja 250, a very different tween.

6. The quality is amazing. It just feels like an expensive machine. However, it also feels quite businesslike, not like a garage diva or a parade queen.

7. Gear switching is very satisfactory – not clunky, but reassuringly clicky. Slipper clutch works very well on downshifting, but I still blip the throttle most of the time, it feels gooooood

8. The sound. Oh, the sound. So throaty, so blurpy, but not loud at all. Very impressive engineering here. If I can find the way to ditch the cat converter but keep the stock silencer, I will.

9. Little nice things – for the rare cases when I forget which gear I am in or how much fuel I have left, it’s there. Mysteriously absent tachometer is mysterious.

10. Wheels feel… light? And very solid. I would not want to go back to spoke wheels.

11. Stock tires are very good.

12. Finally, the seat opens with a key! Welcome to the 21st century!

13. USB adapter under the seat.

All in all, I am one happy rider.
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Feb 19th 2016, 04:22 AM   #2
 Parilla125's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

Congratulations! Those are tempting bikes. Sounds like you are enjoying it and it fits you well.
It seems like manufacturers are tucking the mirrors in tighter so only half the mirror is usable unless a person tucks in an arm. while it makes the bike look slimmer they certainly do not work as well.
Thanks for the report!
Feb 19th 2016, 08:15 AM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  bikes, all kinds.
Nice review. Post some pics up too.
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Feb 19th 2016, 08:51 AM   #4
DGA
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  An Ape and a Husky
Yeah, this is not valid without pictures. Thanks though. For the uninitiated, what is a Street Twin and how does it compare to the Bonneville? For your other gripe, I'd imagine you can add a tachometer to this one as you could to the older Bonneville's.
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Feb 19th 2016, 08:56 AM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Issaquah

  2015 Yamaha FZ-07
Also a vid of the engine sound would be great!
Feb 19th 2016, 09:10 AM   #6
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  '14 St3R, '05 DR650
Sounds like an awesome bike!

If there's anything I have to complain about my Triumph, it's definitely the digital display and its inability to show you more than one thing at a time. Why can't I see my total odometer while riding? Why can't I see current fuel economy AND trip odometer simultaneously?

But, I do have an analog tach... I guess they omitted it on the Street Twin to clean the cluster up a bit? Who knows...
Feb 19th 2016, 09:52 AM   #7
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Triumph Street Twin
This is a good write-up:

2016 Triumph Bonneville Street Twin FIRST RIDE Motorcycle Review, Photos: Show us the engineering.

Quote:
The difference between the new Triumph Bonneville Street Twin and the previous Bonneville is only one thing: everything. It has a new engine, new chassis, new instruments, new fly-by-wire throttle, new traction control, new yadda, new razzmatazz, and new glafuncles. But sure, it’s hard to see changes on a bike that is an updated retro design that’s equally as retro as the previous retro version. So, the Street Twin’s new is a new that’s supposed to be felt, not seen. You will be able to feel it.

The Street Twin engine is a liquid-cooled, eight-valve, single overhead cam, parallel twin with sleeveless Nikasil-coated cylinders and a 270° crank angle. Plus, it’s now actually 900cc, not 865cc. This new powerplant has redefined performance parameters, with a claimed 55 rather than 67 horsepower, and 59 versus 50 pound-feet of torque. At a glance that might seem odd to give up so much horsepower. But it’s not odd. It may be initially disappointing considering the significant update to the platform, but if it’s higher performance you are after, Triumph will refer you to the new bigger Bonnevilles.
And this:

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With the Street Twin, its engine to horsepower ratio isn’t a matter of dumbing down a beast. A big twin allows the creation and manipulation of a crafted powerband that’s broad and smooth from bottom to top, making the most of the plateau of torque rather than chasing the peak of horsepower. The omission of a tachometer isn’t for keeping costs down, it’s to make a statement because the specific location of redline just doesn’t matter.

Chasing horsepower is a nervous activity and this bike is designed to be calm. Also, hp is a measure over time and its peak number only exists for an instant at the top-end of a revving journey. Most riders never go there, don’t want to go there, and don’t know why anyone would think of going there. The Street Twin has traction control, and EFI and so its system always knows damn well exactly what rpm the engine is at; but there’s no reason to bother the rider with that information. And, anyway, it’s a soft redline. Initially.
Feb 19th 2016, 10:01 AM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Triumph Street Twin
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Feb 19th 2016, 10:03 AM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Triumph Street Twin
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Feb 19th 2016, 10:04 AM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Triumph Street Twin
Quote:
Originally Posted by wooden
But, I do have an analog tach... I guess they omitted it on the Street Twin to clean the cluster up a bit? Who knows...
I honestly feel more zen without it now
Feb 19th 2016, 10:07 AM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Triumph Street Twin
Quote:
Originally Posted by albatrosscafe
Also a vid of the engine sound would be great!
I tried, it doesn't do it justice, it either too quiet, or just overloads the phone's microphone. You have to hear it in person.
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Feb 19th 2016, 10:38 AM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, 05 Suzuki SV650
Triumph Street Twin

Quote:
Originally Posted by DGA
Yeah, this is not valid without pictures. Thanks though. For the uninitiated, what is a Street Twin and how does it compare to the Bonneville? For your other gripe, I'd imagine you can add a tachometer to this one as you could to the older Bonneville's.

One big difference between the Street Twin and the standard '16 Bonnie is engine size. The Street Twin runs a 900cc engine, where the standard Bonnie gets the 1200cc.

The same happens with the Thruxton. There are three flavors. The 900cc Thruxton, the 1200 Thruxton and the 1200 Thruxton R.

All look like great bikes.


Sent via iPhone
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Feb 19th 2016, 12:00 PM   #13
 liberpolly's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Triumph Street Twin
I don't think there will be 900cc Thruxton.
Feb 19th 2016, 01:06 PM   #14
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, 05 Suzuki SV650
Quote:
Originally Posted by liberpolly
I don't think there will be 900cc Thruxton.
Right on Triumph's website: MY16 Thruxton

Thruxton | Triumph Motorcycles Engine specs show an 865cc engine on that one.

Different from the "MY16 All New Thruxton Family

Thruxton | Triumph Motorcycles | Triumph Motorcycles Both with the new 1200cc engine.

Basically they are keeping the previous gen Thruxton around, so they have the Bonnies in both engine sizes and styles.

Edited by VeritasImageryNW on Feb 19th 2016 at 01:08 PM
Feb 19th 2016, 01:33 PM   #15
 liberpolly's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Triumph Street Twin
Ah, yes, they keep making the old Thruxton until they run out of parts
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