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Feb 27th 2018, 05:07 PM   #1
 LaCorski's Avatar
 
  Oct 2016
  Yakima

Balance beads... luv em or hate em??

Hey guys, what are your thoughts on balance beads? I've heard good things but not a lot of info. What about on track bikes, do they react differently to the G's and sudden speed and direction changes? Also, any luck in sports cars? I may convert if you guys approve. As always, I appreciate the input!

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Feb 27th 2018, 05:52 PM   #2
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  Jan 2016
  Spokane Wa/Knoxville Tn

  2007 BMW F800S. 1999 ATK 605ESDS Sumo
No go for anything but cruisers. They don't handle sudden accell/decel well. Lots of mixed reports, lotta people say they're great, lotta people say they're crap. Meanwhile everyone knows simple ol' weights work reliably.

Beads can also heat up on the inside of the tire and build up rubber, causing them to clump and fail to balance.
Feb 27th 2018, 07:11 PM   #3
 
  Apr 2016
  WA

They do fine for constant speed. Any sudden change in velocity throws off the balance for some time.
Feb 27th 2018, 07:15 PM   #4
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  Oct 2016
  Yakima

Makes sense guys, kind of what I was thinking. Thanks!

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Feb 27th 2018, 08:38 PM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Bremerton

  '12 Concours14, '08 GSX1300R, '06 GSX-R 750
Had an 01 Busa that a shop claimed they couldn't balance the front wheel with stick on weights so they put in 2oz of beads. Never had a problem with them even at very high speeds on twisty roads.

I have been mount and balancing tires for about 4 years now. Used some to balance the rear wheel of my Triumph Sprint before I got the balancing tool for single sided rear wheels, again no issues.

They are a bitch to put in the tire thru angled valve stems. Straight stems aren't so bad but still takes some patience.

Since I have a balancer I just use stick on weights. They're much less expensive, reliable and there is no guess work on if they're working or not. Easy to rebalance if a weight is thrown. Beads also make a horrific mess when dismounting a tire with them inside.

I won't use them on my own bikes or somebody else's unless they ask for them despite no bad experiences with them. I don't feel they're worth the money or hassle of installation.
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Feb 27th 2018, 11:41 PM   #6
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  Oct 2016
  Yakima

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavement Tested
Had an 01 Busa that a shop claimed they couldn't balance the front wheel with stick on weights so they put in 2oz of beads. Never had a problem with them even at very high speeds on twisty roads.

I have been mount and balancing tires for about 4 years now. Used some to balance the rear wheel of my Triumph Sprint before I got the balancing tool for single sided rear wheels, again no issues.

They are a bitch to put in the tire thru angled valve stems. Straight stems aren't so bad but still takes some patience.

Since I have a balancer I just use stick on weights. They're much less expensive, reliable and there is no guess work on if they're working or not. Easy to rebalance if a weight is thrown. Beads also make a horrific mess when dismounting a tire with them inside.

I won't use them on my own bikes or somebody else's unless they ask for them despite no bad experiences with them. I don't feel they're worth the money or hassle of installation.
Wow! Great feedback, thanks!

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Feb 28th 2018, 08:24 AM   #7
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  Jan 2016
  Kirkland, WA

  '15 Daytona 675R
Million-dollar MotoGP bikes use stick-on weights. That says it all for me.
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Feb 28th 2018, 06:04 PM   #8
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  Feb 2016
  Washington

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavement Tested
Had an 01 Busa that a shop claimed they couldn't balance the front wheel with stick on weights so they put in 2oz of beads. Never had a problem with them even at very high speeds on twisty roads.

I have been mount and balancing tires for about 4 years now. Used some to balance the rear wheel of my Triumph Sprint before I got the balancing tool for single sided rear wheels, again no issues.

They are a bitch to put in the tire thru angled valve stems. Straight stems aren't so bad but still takes some patience.

Since I have a balancer I just use stick on weights. They're much less expensive, reliable and there is no guess work on if they're working or not. Easy to rebalance if a weight is thrown. Beads also make a horrific mess when dismounting a tire with them inside.

I won't use them on my own bikes or somebody else's unless they ask for them despite no bad experiences with them. I don't feel they're worth the money or hassle of installation.
That mirrors my experience, mostly.

I was able to capture about 95% of the beads when taking tires off. I could reuse them over and over, since they don't wear out.

The one issue I had with Dyna-Beads was getting one caught in the valve core one day while checking pressure. It just wouldn't come loose, so the tire wouldn't hold air. I put in a new valve core, but it showed me some weird quirk like this could cause a serious problem.

The initial cost of my bike, gear etc was a pretty significant sum, so when tire changes were needed, I took the bead route to save some money. Beads saved me money for a while, so they did their job.

After a few tire changes, I got a balance stand, and now use it with traditional weights to balance. I'm not inclined to use beads, but if I had to, I wouldn't consider them to be a big compromise, just an inconvenience.

Edited by Rock Dodger on Feb 28th 2018 at 06:07 PM
Mar 1st 2018, 06:07 PM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Moses Lake, WA

  '06 Moto Guzzi Breva 1100 & '12 Honda Goldwing
I have the Centramatic balancers on my Goldwing. Same principle as the beads. I've ran it up to 120+ and scrape the pegs in the twisties. By no means a sport bike, but I ride it hard. I've had no balance issues at all, very smooth. I plan on going with beads on the next tire change on the Moto Guzzi. YMMV.
Mar 5th 2018, 06:47 PM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  Olyallup

  Zuma
I used them when I had a fancy street bike, with fancy wheels, that I didn't want to use sticky weights on... Did the job... Would use them again.
Sticky weights and a balancer are easier and cheaper though... And are what I used when I had an even fancier race bike, with even fancier wheels.

Edited by Dogo on Mar 5th 2018 at 06:51 PM
Mar 7th 2018, 11:38 AM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  Moses Lake, WA

  2013 Kawasaki Concours C-14, 2005 ZX-10R Kawasaki (Nekkid), '99 Yamaha TW-200
Hate, despise, deplore, abhor, loathe, and generally dislike them.
Mar 7th 2018, 12:15 PM   #12
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  Oct 2016
  Yakima

Quote:
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Hate, despise, deplore, abhor, loathe, and generally dislike them.
Ha! I was hoping for a stronger opinion, guess this will do! ;-)

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Mar 7th 2018, 03:36 PM   #13
 
  Jun 2016
  Portland area

Ride On tire sealant is superior. It forms a solid ring balancing the tire perfectly and sealing any nail type punctures.

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