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Oct 8th 2016, 05:39 PM   #16
 That One Guy's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Beaverton

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Originally Posted by Josh
did he write you a speeding ticket or a reckless?

Do you have a clean record otherwise?

How does the officer claim to have captured your speed?

In Washington State we have Spokane v. Knight 1917 which requires calibration proof for equipment when officers claim to have "paced" you.
Thanks for the input guys, very much appreciated.

Josh

No reckless, just for speed.

Yes, clean record with the exception of 10 over photo radar ticket 6 years ago.

Got me with lazer.

I'm in Oregon, so I'm not sure that Spokane v. Knight would help me out.
Oct 8th 2016, 08:34 PM   #17
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Triumph Street Twin
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Originally Posted by wooden
I'd like to hear why people say you should "always lawyer up."
Cheap insurance. Lawyering up second time is much more expensive and less likely to succeed.
Oct 8th 2016, 10:49 PM   #18
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  Jan 2016
  Rome

  SV650S, CRF450R, and others
Lawyer up

I fail to see the downside of getting a lawyer.
I've dealt with tickets by going to court, deferred, and getting a lawyer. Other than the initial cost of the lawyer, there is no downside. They know more than I do as they specialize in what they do and I work (and make money) the day they appear in my stead. Only one time (representing myself) was an outcome better than I had hoped (I got expired tabs dropped).
I understand the process of learning from my "mistakes" but I also don't see the point of paying repeatedly for years and years until it finally drops off my record.
Here's the long and the short of it...
You WILL pay someone.

Either way, (unless money grows on trees) you learn your lesson. IMHO, you either pay the crooked government or pay a private citizen.

Edited by Thumperpilot on Oct 12th 2016 at 09:20 PM
Oct 9th 2016, 09:47 AM   #19
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  Jul 2016
  The Couv

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Originally Posted by That One Guy
Thanks for the input guys, very much appreciated.

Josh

No reckless, just for speed.

Yes, clean record with the exception of 10 over photo radar ticket 6 years ago.

Got me with lazer.

I'm in Oregon, so I'm not sure that Spokane v. Knight would help me out.
I probably write it off as a fun tax.
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Oct 10th 2016, 10:46 AM   #20
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  Jan 2016
  Pullman, WA

  '73 CB350F, '86 VFR750F, '00 Aprilia RS250, '04 Aprilia RSV1000 R Factory(x2), '07 Star 1100 Classic
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Originally Posted by Motorbiker
Here is a link in "that other motorcycle forum" that was posted and kept up to date for awhile. I do not know how current it is. Doesn't cost much to make a phone call.

***LINK REMOVED BECAUSE THIS:***
I'll just leave this right here: Lawyer Up!! - Here's a list if you have a ticket.

You're welcome.
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Oct 10th 2016, 08:09 PM   #21
 
  Jun 2016
  Portland area

Thxs!

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Oct 12th 2016, 06:58 PM   #22
 That One Guy's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Beaverton

Thanks again for the advice.

Called a lawyer and plead not guilty today. I'll keep you all posted on the progress.
Oct 13th 2016, 10:21 PM   #23
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  Apr 2016
  PDX

  2014 Triumph Daytona 675R
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thumperpilot
I fail to see the downside of getting a lawyer.
I've dealt with tickets by going to court, deferred, and getting a lawyer. Other than the initial cost of the lawyer, there is no downside. They know more than I do as they specialize in what they do and I work (and make money) the day they appear in my stead. Only one time (representing myself) was an outcome better than I had hoped (I got expired tabs dropped).
Per Wooden's example, his total cost was lower than paying for a lawyer, which might not even get it dropped.
Expired tags, window tint, etc. are usually fix-it or tickets i.e. if you prove you've corrected it no fine.

So far it sounds like a lawyer is worth it based on exposure to additional tickets (I mean, no one "plans" to get a ticket )

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Nail
Hey Wooden. Just showing up in court does not mean the fee gets reduced. I've been lots of times and they only reduced it once. .
You usually get a reduction just for paying it on time or early (I think it reduced my speeding ticket several years ago by around 25-35%)
Jan 14th 2017, 06:23 PM   #24
 That One Guy's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Beaverton

Update - Ticket dropped. I have to attend a traffic course, but no points on my license.

Looks like Lawyer up is the way to go.

Thanks to all for the help and advice.
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Jan 14th 2017, 10:22 PM   #25
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  Jan 2016
  Silverdale, WA

  848evo, DRZ400SM, XR100
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Originally Posted by That One Guy
Update - Ticket dropped. I have to attend a traffic course, but no points on my license.

Looks like Lawyer up is the way to go.

Thanks to all for the help and advice.
That's great!

It's worth every penny to keep your record clean
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Jan 20th 2017, 10:22 AM   #26
 
  Jul 2016
  tigard

  2013 Ninja 1000
My experience for a different traffic infraction. Since my record was clean for the previous 10 years, the cop told me to talk to the court clerk ahead of the court date and have her ask the judge to send me to traffic class and drop the ticket. The ticket is then off your record as long as you don't re-offend within a year after the class. You have to wait a couple of weeks after getting the ticket before talking to the clerk so it is in their queue.
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