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Oct 7th 2016, 10:38 AM   #1
 That One Guy's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Beaverton

Speeding Ticket Options

Hey Gang,

I know this has been posted about before, but I'm curios and I think most of it was back at the old place. I haven't gotten a ticket in years, I got popped going 80 in a 55 by a Portland cop.

Anybody plead not guilty and won?

To just pay the fine and be done with it, or try to wiggle out of it, that is the question.

Looking for advice.

Thanks
Oct 7th 2016, 10:54 AM   #2
 
  May 2016
  Port Orchard, WA

  R1200RT, DR650
I think the consensus was to consult with an attorney who specializes in those things. You pay 'em to represent you instead of paying the state and possibly taking fallout from your insurer later.

Avvo.com has a list of traffic attorneys for each region with links to their webpages and their backgrounds and such if you're into that sort of thing: https://www.avvo.com/speeding-traffi.../portland.html
Oct 7th 2016, 11:37 AM   #3
 Squidly's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Bothell

A local attorney got me off for 77 in a 35 last year, but there's never a guarantee. Definitely get a lawyer though. You won't even have to go to court!
Oct 7th 2016, 12:00 PM   #4
 tunus's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  PDX

  bikes, all kinds.
Lawyer up. Don't ever just pay a ticket.
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Oct 7th 2016, 12:29 PM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Ferndale Washington

  ZX10-R GSXR 600 Track Bike
Lawyer up....
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Oct 7th 2016, 02:29 PM   #6
 Josh's Avatar
 
  Jul 2016
  The Couv

did he write you a speeding ticket or a reckless?

Do you have a clean record otherwise?

How does the officer claim to have captured your speed?

In Washington State we have Spokane v. Knight 1917 which requires calibration proof for equipment when officers claim to have "paced" you.
Oct 7th 2016, 02:53 PM   #7
 MMcN49's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Small Island Surrounded by Puget Sound

  07 Buell XB12STT, (Two) 12 Suzuki DR650 SE 72BMWR75/5 KIA @ 243K
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Originally Posted by That One Guy
I haven't gotten a ticket in years, I got popped going 80 in a 55 by a Portland cop.Thanks
In Washington State many jurisdictions/courts allow an appeal before the appearance date, (don't know if that's the correct terminology). Anyway call the number on your ticket and ask. If they do here's how it works:

You'll speak with either the court clerk or judge. They will ask for a detailed written explanation of why you were speeding. Make it good but plausible. Remember you're not contesting the ticket and are in essence admitting fault. If they buy it, (which they always do unless you're disrespectful) you will send a check to cover court costs which will probably be a few bucks more than the ticket. This may not work if you've had recent tickets.

The ticket is then hidden, sealed or whatever. It will not go on your record and will not impact insurance rates unless you get another ticket within seven years.

The only other option IMO is to hire a lawyer and hope he can get you off.
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Oct 7th 2016, 03:53 PM   #8
 Rusty Nail's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Sandy

  2013 Spyder
In Oregon, you have the burden of proving the officer wrong. A ticket means you are guilty unless you can convince the judge otherwise. Like if there was a car between you and the officer while he was "Pacing" you. Or if the Officer does not show on your court date. So unless you are willing to pay a layer ASAP you are pretty much done.
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Oct 7th 2016, 05:01 PM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Silverdale, WA

  848evo, DRZ400SM, XR100
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Originally Posted by tunus
Lawyer up. Don't ever just pay a ticket.
Exactly this ^^^^
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Oct 7th 2016, 09:44 PM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Triumph Street Twin
Lawyer. Worth every penny.

Yes, it's a racket. The lawyer with laugh around with the judge and the prosecutor - they know each other for years and play golf together - and you go blemish-free. The lawyer will bring a box of cubans for the next golf game.
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Oct 8th 2016, 07:58 AM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  Silverdale, WA

  1987 FZR 1000
Here is a link in "that other motorcycle forum" that was posted and kept up to date for awhile. I do not know how current it is. Doesn't cost much to make a phone call.

Lawyers | PNW Riders
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Oct 8th 2016, 10:14 AM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  '14 St3R, '05 DR650
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Originally Posted by Motorbiker
Here is a link in "that other motorcycle forum" that was posted and kept up to date for awhile. I do not know how current it is. Doesn't cost much to make a phone call.

Lawyers | PNW Riders
Good god I had forgotten how awful that site setup was.

I'd like to hear why people say you should "always lawyer up." For large violations with $300+ tickets, it makes sense - the cost of the ticket + impact to insurance rates is going to be comparable to the cost of a lawyer, may as well pay the lawyer and hopefully get off completely, which would break you even. If you don't get off completely, you still pay some ticket and your insurance rates still go up, which may or may not have been more expensive than simply showing up in court and paying a reduced fee "just for being there."

But for 10mph over or similarly small infractions, why bother with a lawyer? 10mph over tickets are usually like $120 in my experience, and if you go to court, it's basically half-off just for showing up, and thrown out if the officer isn't present. If you pay the reduced fee, sure, it goes on your record, but in my experience it doesn't affect insurance costs a whole lot and the only real negative is that in Oregon you can only get 3 tickets in 18 months before they suspend your license for a month. Assuming it's a small infraction and you aren't at risk of having your license suspended, why hire a lawyer?

I ask because I've been ticketed for 25mph over before (in a car) and the ticket was $250 and caused my insurance rates to increase by about 20% for 3 years, which amounted to about $80/year for a total of $240. By showing up in court, I paid $100 for the ticket instead of the full $250. So, all in all, the situation cost me $340, which is just over half the fee I paid a lawyer for a different ticket once ($600). Why bother with a lawyer?
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Oct 8th 2016, 01:22 PM   #13
 MMcN49's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Small Island Surrounded by Puget Sound

  07 Buell XB12STT, (Two) 12 Suzuki DR650 SE 72BMWR75/5 KIA @ 243K
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Originally Posted by wooden
Why bother with a lawyer?
Because you never know what is going to happen next week. If you can keep it off your record the money well spent.

In Washington Step-1 is to call the court and see if they have the program, (I forget what its called) where you end up writing a dissertation of your version of the event, promising that you'll pay closer attention in the future and paying court costs. In exchange for this effort the ticket goes away but the court fees are a little higher than the ticket.

If not hire an attorney. Its worth it even if you end up paying double or more the ticket cost.
Oct 8th 2016, 03:24 PM   #14
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  Jul 2016
  The Couv

If you get "paced" in the state of Washington, Spokane v. Knight 1917 pretty much gets you off every time...just saying.
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Oct 8th 2016, 04:28 PM   #15
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  Jan 2016
  Sandy

  2013 Spyder
Hey Wooden. Just showing up in court does not mean the fee gets reduced. I've been lots of times and they only reduced it once. Also if you got more than one thing on your record insurance goes up alot more than it did for you. So even if this is the first offense it would be worth while to keep it off the record. Just in case you get a second or third. Even.

If only I knew then what I know now.
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