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Feb 9th 2016, 10:40 PM   #31
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got you down. only 4 slots left for the weekend so sign up quick if you're on the fence and tell your friends. 2 spots friday evening, 2 spots saturday evening.
Feb 10th 2016, 10:39 AM   #32
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To void the engine warranty and install my PC5 or not... uhg.
Feb 10th 2016, 03:54 PM   #33
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Still, if it turns out that the aftermarket or recycled part was itself defective or wasn't installed correctly, and it causes damage to another part that is covered under the warranty, the manufacturer or dealer has the right to deny coverage for that part and charge you for any repairs. The FTC says the manufacturer or dealer must show that the aftermarket or recycled part caused the need for repairs before denying warranty coverage.
This is the part that scares me. If they claim it caused damage, who am I to refute them? As if taking them to court over it will save me any money or headache.
Feb 10th 2016, 04:02 PM   #34
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I suppose that is a feasible method with the newer bikes, though I wonder if my Triumph has any method of detecting and remembering if a PC5/Bazzazz/etc. was installed... You'd figure that if they went the length to lock the ECU down, they'd also implement something that could detect the common ECU bypass modules.

Decisions, decisions... the PC5 is sitting on my workbench, staring me down...
Feb 10th 2016, 04:13 PM   #35
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There is no bypass. The PC5 takes the signal from the ECU and either adds or subtracts pulse width to richen or lessen the fuel.
I chose the word bypass as I wasn't sure what else to call it. It interrupts the ECU's control over the bike and inserts its own control signals. In essence, it's bypassing the ECU and doing its own thing.

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The ECU doesn't even know it's there...
I wouldn't trust that statement from anyone other than a Triumph ECU engineer. As an electrical engineer who has experienced this kind of crap first hand, I've come to expect this from manufacturers.

And I'm sure Nels is the most knowledgeable person on this matter that I'll likely ever meet, but as ECUs are so tightly locked down, I doubt a single soul outside of Triumph would have any knowledge of such a thing until they ran into it themselves.

Call me a skeptic or paranoid, but this is the kind of world we live in today.
Feb 10th 2016, 04:24 PM   #36
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I gotcha. Just trying to get you to get it done lol. It's SOOOOO worth it! Good luck!

FWIW I modded my Yamaha with pipes, PCV and a tune after 1800 miles lol.
It mainly pains me to know I paid for the extended 3-year warranty and could possibly ruin that investment... Uhg.

I'll probably just do it anyway, though I'll have to find a welder to help cut the pipes, remove the cat, and re-weld to get the most out of it... or learn to weld, myself... It's just soldering on a bigger scale, right?
Feb 10th 2016, 04:31 PM   #37
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Hmm - with a 50 mile total commute, that 15% fuel reduction could add up.
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Feb 19th 2016, 04:01 PM   #38
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well, schedules about packed out. if you still need a spot, come down and hang out, someone always no shows or picks up a nail in a tire so we'll do our best to get you into the dyno
Feb 27th 2016, 07:44 PM   #39
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What can you do for a 2012 Concours 1400?

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Feb 28th 2016, 11:29 AM   #40
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What can you do for a 2012 Concours 1400?

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You'd need a power commander and then they'd provide a custom fuel tune for you. There is also an option for an ECU flash as well. Email them 2wheeldynoworks@gmail.com to set up a time. right now the only available times are thursday afternoon/evening
Feb 28th 2016, 11:34 AM   #41
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You'd need a power commander and then they'd provide a custom fuel tune for you. There is also an option for an ECU flash as well. Email them 2wheeldynoworks@gmail.com to set up a time. right now the only available times are thursday afternoon/evening
I'd rather flash the ECU then piggy back. Would I get a tune for standard mode and a tune for eco mode?
Feb 28th 2016, 11:42 AM   #42
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I'd rather flash the ECU then piggy back. Would I get a tune for standard mode and a tune for eco mode?
That's a question to email them with.
Mar 21st 2016, 11:11 AM   #43
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Thanks to everyone who came out, 55 bikes in 4 days is insane
Mar 21st 2016, 11:30 AM   #44
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Thanks to Nels for coming down. Nothing like going four jet sizes larger to learn that your bike is running even leaner than before. It's really why I strap this thing on to a dyno...to learn what is ultimately fucked up.
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