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Feb 11th 2016, 09:00 AM   #1
 larsvons's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  PDX

  '15 KLZ1000, '03 SV650S
PDX drivers are terrible, and here is some evidence

Over the last 5 years or so, I started to notice the quality of driving in town (which was never great to begin with..) go down rapidly. More cagers ignoring stop signs, not using blinkers, cutting me off, and a HUGE increase in dangerous nicehole behavior.

Finally some validation. Saw this on /r/portland today:

Allstate: Portland drivers more accident-prone than ever | News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KATU

Getting in a fender bender in a car = inconvenience
Getting in a fender bender on a motorcycle = potentially deadly

Be careful out there!
Feb 11th 2016, 09:27 AM   #2
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  Jan 2016
  Hazel Dell, Wa

  Honda VFR800, Husqvarna TE 610, Ducati Hypermotard 1100S, Yamaha Radian, MZ 125SM
I think it's a combination of CA residents bringing their LA style habits with them and the GD Portlandia hippies that don't know how to farking drive which creates the perfect intersection storm.
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Feb 11th 2016, 09:34 AM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  welches, Oregon

  08Kawasaki Versys(Sylvester),72Suzuki RV90(vanvan),81Honda TwinStar(Bobber),Yamaha225,Honda Shadow
just more proof of my theory that cities have a magical magnetic power that sucks peoples heads up there arses, and the closer to the center of the city you get the stronger it is
Feb 11th 2016, 09:40 AM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  Vancouver WA

  2010 Ducati Monster 696
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Originally Posted by Flyboymedic
I think it's a combination of CA residents bringing their LA style habits with them and the GD Portlandia hippies that don't know how to farking drive which creates the perfect intersection storm.
I was stationed in CA for 8 years and the drivers there are aggressive assholes but they know what they are doing. I moved up here and it's like everyone was let loose from the loony bin and given cars to drive. This is by far the worst area I've ever driven in.
Feb 11th 2016, 09:44 AM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  An Ape and a Husky
I prefer CA drivers over any Oregon or Washington slow, indecisive, driver. NW just has terrible drivers in general.
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Feb 11th 2016, 09:47 AM   #6
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  '15 KLZ1000, '03 SV650S
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Originally Posted by ltlpagan
I was stationed in CA for 8 years and the drivers there are aggressive assholes but they know what they are doing. I moved up here and it's like everyone was let loose from the loony bin and given cars to drive. This is by far the worst area I've ever driven in.
This was pretty much my observation. It's like everyone was driving stoned, all the time. No common sense, sense of urgency or purpose.
Feb 11th 2016, 09:56 AM   #7
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  Jan 2016
  welches, Oregon

  08Kawasaki Versys(Sylvester),72Suzuki RV90(vanvan),81Honda TwinStar(Bobber),Yamaha225,Honda Shadow
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Originally Posted by ltlpagan
I was stationed in CA for 8 years and the drivers there are aggressive assholes but they know what they are doing. I moved up here and it's like everyone was let loose from the loony bin and given cars to drive. This is by far the worst area I've ever driven in.
that actually exactly what happen... like 3 mental facilities here in PDX closed down and the heard was released
Feb 11th 2016, 09:57 AM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  McMinnville, OR

  CB160RR, CB550, SportClassic
Agreed. CA drivers are aggressive but at least they're (relatively) predictable. And they GO. And they seem like they're more aware of MCs.

I can't remember who said it now but the best description I've heard is that Portland bicyclists ride like LA drivers, while Portland drivers drive like half-stoned 14-year-olds.
Feb 11th 2016, 10:09 AM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  '14 St3R, '05 DR650
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"In Portland, of course we're concerned about all crashes but we're focused on crashes that lead to fatalities and serious injuries," Brady said, adding that Portland is better than the national average when it comes to number of traffic fatalities per capita.
That's because we don't have any f*cking roads that move at rush hour. It's hard to die in a car crash at 5mph.
Feb 11th 2016, 10:10 AM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

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Originally Posted by Flyboymedic
I think it's a combination of CA residents bringing their LA style habits with them and the GD Portlandia hippies that don't know how to farking drive which creates the perfect intersection storm.
Happened to Seattle starting in the 90's when the flood of people started moving here. Don't know if it is just 'progress' or what but the attitudes starting changing and the driving started going down hill with it.
We were in our Suburban yesterday, A HUGE SUBURBAN, and had two different people move into our lane WHILE THEY WERE BESIDE US. Not swerve, drive into. They never even looked. One I could see was texting...
It is like people forget the basic driving and road rules as soon as they get handed their license.
On my way to work there are at least two wrecks a week in the same spot. Rear ender's and usually no skid marks that I can see. All good fun!
Feb 11th 2016, 02:45 PM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  Hazel Dell, Wa

  Honda VFR800, Husqvarna TE 610, Ducati Hypermotard 1100S, Yamaha Radian, MZ 125SM
In all seriousness, I think the poor driving performance is based on the influx of people to the area over the past 10 years and the streets and highways in the PDX area aren't equipped to handle it. In fact, dip$hit$ in the government of Portlandia decreased Glisan, Division, and Holgate from 4 lanes to 2 lanes to accomodate bicycles which intensifies gridlock, creating pissed off people trying to do their errands or get to/from work in a reasonable amount of time. I'm flat out amazed at how well street designers planned years ago SR500, highway 14, and many other East-West routes here in Vancouver, and how Clark government continues with the upgrades from 2 lane roads to 4 lane roads in the past 5 years to accommodate the increase in traffic. Heck, so many neighborhood streets here are much wider than the average street in Portland. Well done Clark County!
Feb 11th 2016, 04:34 PM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  Garden Home

  2012 Versys...'83 BMW R80 RT...Suzuki GS 450t
I'll take Portland traffic and it's drivers over Seattle's any day...
Feb 11th 2016, 06:28 PM   #13
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  Jan 2016
  NW

I always knew Seattle drivers were bad, but 184 out of 200 cities?

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...ot-far-behind/



Here's the full report, Los Angeles, Oakland, Glendale (CA) and San Francisco all rated even lower.

https://www.allstate.com/resources/a...eport-2015.pdf

Edited by Scribbles on Feb 11th 2016 at 06:41 PM
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