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Mar 17th 2017, 11:37 PM   #46
 craiger's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Molalla

  2007 Aprilia Tuono Factory, 2010 Honda VFR 1200f DCT
Thanx for posting that read...a nice break here at work from all the mindless, bubble-ized selfish idiots who think they, and only they, are inhabitants of this planet...anywhoo...I myself ride a bike with stock hard bags, and that is my only fear if/when it comes time to lane "share". I do however, work nights, so it's not that big a deal for me as much as it used to be. But man is that author speakin the gospel, dear friends and fellow riders about how the cagers and "lawmakers" feel so threatened by those of us brave enough to transport on two wheels. What's the big deal? When I'm cagin (for various reasons), and i happen upon a two wheeler, I give him lotsa space and I make eye contact..even if he's wearin a smoked face screen or whatever..i give him/her props and make room. What a concept.

I think one of the biggest differences we can make is to educate those in our social/familial circles to the advantages of "lane sharing". Word of mouth is a powerful thing. And please, please, when "illegally land sharing" (not that I would condone such behavior), act and be courteous of the cagers..they are eventually the ones we need to convince and educate about the benefits to all the advantages of lane sharing. One day in the not so distant future, we may live in a society that not only allows lane sharing, but encourages it. I know, I know...keep dreaming. Rubber side down people !!
Mar 19th 2017, 10:35 AM   #47
 
  Feb 2016
  Washington DC (Douglas County)

My god I just cant understand the controversy. Cali does it and by nearly all accounts it works. The REST OF THE WORLD does it!! Unbelievable our society here in most of the states cant at least rise to the level of monkey see monkey do logic. Unfortunately most of the people I talk to about it have a mental image of bikes blasting through traffic at 100+. Nothing in common with any lane sharing bills or laws.
I lane split constantly. Surprisingly most of the car folks that come unhinged are women, hmm dont really understand that but whatever. Maby it is because men know they are more likely to be held accountable for their rude or reckless behaviour.
The drive on the shoulder thing is just plane stupid imho. I have learned by experience that is a great way to pick up junk in your tires. Not conducive to a long healthy life.
Mar 19th 2017, 12:57 PM   #48
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  Jan 2016
  Moses Lake, WA

  2013 Kawasaki Concours C-14, 2005 ZX-10R Kawasaki (Nekkid), '99 Yamaha TW-200
I recently visited San Diego. Rented a bike for fun and then to make time (I thought) I ended up on I-5/805 trying to get back to the house more directly. After 2 minutes in 5 mph traffic in the HOV lane, and after seeing a Honda F6B doing it, I decided to lane split/filter. Eventually their were 4 or 5 of us in a line, doing from 30 to 40 and well spaced out, but we were making time. I was getting into it, takes a first timer a lot of concentration especially on a rented bike, (2016 V-Strom 1k, sans bags). Started having so much fun I missed my exit, but got an impromptu side street self guided tour of El Cajon. I would sure like to see it be OK in our metro areas, and have supported/contacted legislators through my AMA channels. That is all...
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Mar 19th 2017, 01:23 PM   #49
 
  May 2016
  Milwaukie, OR

  2011 ZX-6R; 2009 F800GS
Am glad folks enjoyed the read - and recent experiences in lane splitting.

A few years ago, I had my fully loaded ZX-9R rolling north on I-5 south of Sacramento when I hit an epic traffic jam, and managed to lane split through approximately 15 miles of traffic at about 30 mph. Not a single incident - and it was quite fun to be in a 4-5 bike convoy rolling north through basically stopped cars.

We need this here - our traffic has certainly gotten that bad. I think there's a hearing tomorrow, as noted by another poster, so let's hope it goes well.
Mar 20th 2017, 11:03 AM   #50
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  '15 KLZ1000BFF (BEST FRANDS 4EVER!)
Looks like today's hearing will be held over til tomorrow. Lots of testimony.

https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/201...1-08-00/Agenda
Mar 20th 2017, 11:45 AM   #51
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  Jan 2016
  Stumpy Puddleton

  R1200ST, CB350
That explains why police edition R1200RTs have such narrow panniers; the stock ones turn you into a zeppelin. And even if your tail end is no wider than your fairing you can still misjudge and scrape the bags when serpentining through stuff. I used to have a 48 litre top case on the back of a V-Strom, no wider than my shoulders but I still knocked a few truck mirrors askew with it when squeezing by.
Mar 21st 2017, 03:11 PM   #52
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

@caslaw thank you very much for your eloquent testimony (saw it in the video).
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Mar 21st 2017, 03:47 PM   #53
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  Jan 2016
  Moses Lake, WA

  2013 Kawasaki Concours C-14, 2005 ZX-10R Kawasaki (Nekkid), '99 Yamaha TW-200
I forgot to mention, during the entire say, 15 miles I traveled this way, I would estimate 25% or more of the drivers that saw the lights coming actually made more room, and only 1 or 2 inattentive ass hats made the space narrower. Almost brought home a mirror souvenir from a Ford pickup...
Mar 21st 2017, 04:52 PM   #54
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  Ducati Multistrada 1200S PP, KTM 690 EnduroR, Suzuki GSXR750, Kawasaki Ninja250R
I split and filter.
I aim to be courteous.
I don't travel at excessive speed while doing so.
I understand it is illegal, but I am safer because I do it. And I'm willing to pay the fine if cited I guess- because my life matters.
I have given up on angry cagers who honk and yell at me because I have realized that they will likely never understand.
And yes, I have contacted my congresspeople. But as of yet to no avail. We will see if this year is different.

It is what it is-
Ride safe people.
Mar 22nd 2017, 08:41 AM   #55
 
  May 2016
  Milwaukie, OR

  2011 ZX-6R; 2009 F800GS
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralgha
@caslaw thank you very much for your eloquent testimony (saw it in the video).
Yes, thank you caslaw.
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Mar 22nd 2017, 11:12 AM   #56
 
  Jan 2016
  Beaverton

  2015 Kawasaki Ninja ZX6R, 2014 Kawasaki Ninja EX300 CRF250x, CRF150RB. XR100
I wrote and left messages with our state senators. Lane filtering is proven safe in California through a US Berkeley study and by the California Highway Patrol.
Mar 22nd 2017, 06:36 PM   #57
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  Jan 2016
  Stumpy Puddleton

  R1200ST, CB350
Hopefully it passes, and a few years later when everyone stops freaking out because the world didn't end, we can extend it to other streets and be more like CA.

I don't commute on highways currently but I have during various long periods over the years and doubtless will again. And even if you don't commute, the realization that you'll be going into or out of town 7:00-10:00am or 3:00-7:00pm for any reason can be a real groaner, especially in the summer. It's prospect that's given me pause when considering skiving off for a weekday ride...

Edited by WarpShatner7 on Mar 22nd 2017 at 07:00 PM
Mar 24th 2017, 05:55 PM   #58
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  Feb 2016
  Portland

  2015 KTM 1190 Adventure; 2010 WR250R
Thanks guys it was a team effort here's a better version of the video I put in the powerpoints that were not captured by the hearing recording system.

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Mar 24th 2017, 06:07 PM   #59
 
  Apr 2016
  Vancouver

  2015 Yamaha Fj-09
Got flashed yesterday by Portland Police. Didn't ticket me, but said "Don't do it again".
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Mar 27th 2017, 02:09 PM   #60
 
  May 2016
  Milwaukie, OR

  2011 ZX-6R; 2009 F800GS
Looked through (more thoroughly this time) the meeting materials. Several things stand out:

1. Governor's advisory committee on motorcycle safety voted against the idea of lane splitting 5-2. Are they even motorcyclists who travel or commute?!

2. ODOT again. Their cherry-picking of numbers from different reports in their document makes it seem quite formidable, but they didn't provide (much) actual detail. Also, I don't think they investigate all traffic incidents, so it seems their analysis of motorcyclist injuries due to being rear-ended might not be too awesome.

3. Oregon Trucking Association commentary basically confirmed they are roadhogs. Part of their written statement was almost a bit amusing. One comment I was a bit struck by is they thought that the rules of lane splitting would be unenforceable....kind of like trying to get a semi to leave the passing lane!

Anyway, I hope the committee will see our side of it.

Here's the link: https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/201...Exhibits/SB385

There's a lot of good testimony and letters there - and some very compelling witness writeup. Thanks to all for your efforts.
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