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May 25th 2019, 01:47 PM   #106
 
  Jun 2016
  Portland area

Because it's a rat race and they want to win. They don't care how dangerous it is.

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May 26th 2019, 06:40 AM   #107
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  Dec 2018
  Goldendale WA

  Classic Sportsters, Triumph & BSA
I've printed copies of the editorial "Lean Angle" from September 2018, Motorcycle News (MCN.com) by David Hilgendorf. He pretty much sums up the pros (more) and cons (not so much) of Lane Sharing, includes links to relevant studies and reports. I keep a couple copies with me and hand them out whenever needed, cager, legislator etc. It puts in their hand the arguments for Sharing and usually gives me a starting point for conversation on the subject.
May 26th 2019, 07:19 AM   #108
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2012 Ninja 250, Tiger 800
Cagers are against it because they think it's unfair, that's the bottom line. Most of them won't admit it, if they even realize it. They'll hide behind the dangerous argument because "jealous" is an ugly word.
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May 30th 2019, 08:09 AM   #109
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  Dec 2018
  Goldendale WA

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See where Texas is considering Lane Sharing bills, HB1270 & SB273. 20 mph top speed no than 5 mph faster than surrounding vehicles, limited access highways only.
May 30th 2019, 05:04 PM   #110
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2019 Nada
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Originally Posted by Hachi
Because it's a rat race and they want to win. They don't care how dangerous it is.

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They don't want to win, since there's no real win in traffic, they just don't want YOU to "get away with something" (that they're not getting away with).

FULL motherfucking STOP.
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May 31st 2019, 08:33 AM   #111
 
  Jun 2016
  Portland area

Oh they want to win. That's why safe drivers are constantly getting cut off. Damn rat race to save 1 min. For what, more time to bs with coworkers. Even if you win the rate race, you are still a rat.

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Jun 2nd 2019, 03:08 PM   #112
 
  Sep 2018
  Oregon

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I've done it off and on for years, mostly because I know full well the cost of getting pinched. It's just not worth the potential outcome if a cop wants to be a dick. Trust me, and I'm not talking money.
Can you clarify this? If a LEO catches you splitting, what kind of ticket do they issue?

Bummed to see the bill died again this year. Traffic is horrific and after traveling the world again this year for work, it's preposterous how everyone else on the globe filters yet we sit here in stopped traffic with tons of room between cars.

All for doing things the right way, this has been in talks for 6 years. We have some many Californians in state now, I'm frankly shocked that I don't see more bikes splitting. If everyone just started splitting, it'd be impossible to enforce.
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Edited by bkuske on Jun 2nd 2019 at 03:12 PM
Jun 2nd 2019, 06:32 PM   #113
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

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I'm gradually starting to see a few people splitting. It's only going to increase, Portland City Council's head is firmly up their ass and traffic isn't going to get any better.
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Jun 4th 2019, 05:46 AM   #114
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  Dec 2018
  Goldendale WA

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See where Texas is considering Lane Sharing bills, HB1270 & SB273. 20 mph top speed no than 5 mph faster than surrounding vehicles, limited access highways only.
Looking through Texas legislature web site it appears both these bills have ended up in their respective house transportation committees back in February. No further action....
Jun 4th 2019, 09:42 PM   #115
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  Mar 2016
  Oregon

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My buddy on here got one. He posted about it on the previous page I think. 250 bucks was the ticket. I forget exactly what he said the ticket was.
It was a 250 dollar ticket for careless driving, and a talking to by the motorcycle cop about how dangerous it is. Easily could have been reckless and jail.
Jun 4th 2019, 09:43 PM   #116
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  Mar 2016
  Oregon

Mind you, I was going MAYBE 10 mph...in a parking lot.
Jun 5th 2019, 12:30 AM   #117
 
  Sep 2018
  Oregon

Thanks for the update. Wow. I have wondered about that, I suppose a cop really could just slap you with anything for splitting... careless, reckless, whatever. There's not a specific ticket for "lane splitting" eh?

Which leads me to my next question - could that be pretty easily fought by a lawyer in Oregon?
Jun 5th 2019, 07:39 AM   #118
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  Dec 2018
  Goldendale WA

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Originally Posted by bkuske
Thanks for the update. Wow. I have wondered about that, I suppose a cop really could just slap you with anything for splitting... careless, reckless, whatever. There's not a specific ticket for "lane splitting" eh?

Which leads me to my next question - could that be pretty easily fought by a lawyer in Oregon?
To what do they base their (subjective) opinion on whether it be reckless, careless or whatever? In the next state south where the practice is legal and widely practiced, and has been for years, would seem it might be the time for an attorney to get a precedent set for legalizing the move??? An attorney out there got an opinion on how this might work? Would seem one LEO opinion in Oregon vs. how many practicing LEOs in CA?
Jun 9th 2019, 08:00 AM   #119
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  Apr 2016
  Olympia

  2014 KTM 690 / BMW R1150 GS
Speaking of New Bill's how about come July 2019 motorcycles in WA. will be required to carry liability insurance.
Jun 9th 2019, 02:11 PM   #120
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  Dec 2018
  Goldendale WA

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Speaking of New Bill's how about come July 2019 motorcycles in WA. will be required to carry liability insurance.

Because no body spoke up to oppose it
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