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May 22nd 2019, 10:08 AM   #91
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  Mar 2019
  oregon

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Man, I applaud all that diligent, patient, hard work that those in the know do to try to convince apathetic, close-minded bureaucrats to do the right thing. Maybe if they weren't so filled with preconceived notions and prejudiced against the "norm", we could actually get progressive ideas through their thick skulls.
Sorry for the run-on sentence. This basic, common sense idea that fails every time it's introduced just PISSES me off to no end. What a bunch of bought-and-sold, corrupt, narrow minded ass clowns. Fuck em all. I will split every day. I hope one of these assholes are one of my next "victims", as I call em. Get a glove, get in the fuckin game. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. It's 2019 for fucks sake.
Yes!

Telling it how it is. Love it.
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May 22nd 2019, 01:37 PM   #92
 
  Jun 2016
  Portland area

Are there any 4 lane highways in her district on the southern coast? Isn't this lane sharing bill only on 4 lane highways?

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May 22nd 2019, 01:43 PM   #93
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2012 Ninja 250
Maybe some sections of 101 in her district would qualify, I don't know. Not much if any though.
May 22nd 2019, 02:02 PM   #94
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  Mar 2019
  oregon

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Are there any 4 lane highways in her district on the southern coast? Isn't this lane sharing bill only on 4 lane highways?

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I'm curious too.

These bills need to "model" something that works. Like uh, maybe California for instance, or the rest of the world. The bill bill that passed in Utah is a waste of time IMO. They just made up a lane splitting/sharing bill, which is nothing like cali or the rest of the world. It does nothing to help congestion or safety on the freeways. Or in moving traffic for that matter lol.
May 23rd 2019, 07:42 AM   #95
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  Apr 2016
  Molalla

  2007 Aprilia Tuono Factory, 2010 Honda VFR 1200f DCT
McKeown, huh? I'll bet she drives 52 in the fast lane. Talks on her phone, texts, puts on her makeup, and gulps coffee sludge at the same time. You know, cuz she's one of those people who are smarter than all of us "constituents" who pay her salary to act like an asshole and dole out her own private form of justice. Cuz she knows better than all of us who actually work for a living. And she's a democrat? If that's not an oxymoron, I don't know what is. She just has that smug, elitist look on her face. I hate that look. Just another clueless bureaucrat. Oh well, her shortsightedness doesn't change the fact that I'll split wherever and whenever I want to.
May 23rd 2019, 12:41 PM   #96
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Aprilia Scarabeo
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The bill bill that passed in Utah is a waste of time IMO. They just made up a lane splitting/sharing bill, which is nothing like cali or the rest of the world. It does nothing to help congestion or safety on the freeways. Or in moving traffic for that matter lol.
It's a good first step, extremely helpful for us city riders. The more bills like this pass, the better for all of us.
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May 23rd 2019, 02:10 PM   #97
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  Mar 2019
  oregon

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It's a good first step, extremely helpful for us city riders. The more bills like this pass, the better for all of us.
I don't think so, but thats just me.

I wonder sometimes.... why?

Why was this bill passed in Utah of all places?

Why only when cars are stopped? Is there data to back this up? There is data to back it up when cars are moving, so who in the hell came up with this? What if any data or test or studies did they account for when they wrote this up? What polititian studies traffic behavior and safety? I might be wrong because I don't know how this bill was formed, but seems to me this bill passing has nothing to do with motorcyclist. Again I could be wrong.

My roommate and I were discussing this the other night... We both agreed on why someone would push a bill,...

I feel we need to have the CHP up here next year explaining the benefits to these knuckleheads. Instead we have the OSP explaining how we shouldn't allow it. Again why? What data does the OSP have, or anyone in Oregon, have pertaining to lane sharing? Nothing, because it has never been legal. Yet all these people are experts on the matter.... Even my roomy has issues sometimes understanding the benefits and he rides! But he has never ridden in Cali.

If it is in fact a "first step", when does the real lane sharing bill get passed?
May 23rd 2019, 03:14 PM   #98
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  Apr 2016
  Molalla

  2007 Aprilia Tuono Factory, 2010 Honda VFR 1200f DCT
O.. you so cynical, Sentinel. I think I'm sexually aroused. All this fucking goin on and I just get it from the ol lady

Gotta love Walter tho, "I didn't watch my friends die face down in the muck for nothing, I'm sittin here and finishin my coffee". What a great movie.
May 23rd 2019, 03:40 PM   #99
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Aprilia Scarabeo
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I don't think so, but thats just me.

I wonder sometimes.... why?

Why was this bill passed in Utah of all places?

Why only when cars are stopped? Is there data to back this up? There is data to back it up when cars are moving, so who in the hell came up with this? What if any data or test or studies did they account for when they wrote this up? What polititian studies traffic behavior and safety? I might be wrong because I don't know how this bill was formed, but seems to me this bill passing has nothing to do with motorcyclist. Again I could be wrong.

My roommate and I were discussing this the other night... We both agreed on why someone would push a bill,...

I feel we need to have the CHP up here next year explaining the benefits to these knuckleheads. Instead we have the OSP explaining how we shouldn't allow it. Again why? What data does the OSP have, or anyone in Oregon, have pertaining to lane sharing? Nothing, because it has never been legal. Yet all these people are experts on the matter.... Even my roomy has issues sometimes understanding the benefits and he rides! But he has never ridden in Cali.

If it is in fact a "first step", when does the real lane sharing bill get passed?
Maybe they want to be sure that drivers won't swerve into the motorcyclists in feats of rage? And if everything goes Ok, they'll expand it?

I don't know the motivation, but I do know if would benefit me in WA if it passed even in the limited Utah edition. Why is it not a good thing?
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May 23rd 2019, 03:49 PM   #100
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2012 Ninja 250
Portland Police is worried about enforceability, which I can at least understand, though CHP doesn't have a problem. ODOT though, is completely nonsensical. They don't have any logical basis for their opposition, and they have zero experience with it. Blows my mind.

McKeown needs to go though. She didn't win her district by much, and she clearly doesn't give a shit what us citizens think.
May 23rd 2019, 03:55 PM   #101
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  Dec 2018
  Goldendale WA

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I don't think so, but thats just me.

I wonder sometimes.... why?

Why was this bill passed in Utah of all places?

Why only when cars are stopped? Is there data to back this up? There is data to back it up when cars are moving, so who in the hell came up with this? What if any data or test or studies did they account for when they wrote this up? What polititian studies traffic behavior and safety? I might be wrong because I don't know how this bill was formed, but seems to me this bill passing has nothing to do with motorcyclist. Again I could be wrong.

My roommate and I were discussing this the other night... We both agreed on why someone would push a bill,...

I feel we need to have the CHP up here next year explaining the benefits to these knuckleheads. Instead we have the OSP explaining how we shouldn't allow it. Again why? What data does the OSP have, or anyone in Oregon, have pertaining to lane sharing? Nothing, because it has never been legal. Yet all these people are experts on the matter.... Even my roomy has issues sometimes understanding the benefits and he rides! But he has never ridden in Cali.

If it is in fact a "first step", when does the real lane sharing bill get passed?
We tried to get CHP to testify in Olympia but their managers wouldn't let them do it. However, he guy we talked to (CHP Officer) said it was great! He can actually get home in a short amount of time cuz he can split.
May 23rd 2019, 09:02 PM   #102
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  Jan 2016
  Silverdale, WA

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We tried to get CHP to testify in Olympia but their managers wouldn't let them do it. However, he guy we talked to (CHP Officer) said it was great! He can actually get home in a short amount of time cuz he can split.
Maybe we should start a "gofundme" for an CHP to come up and testify. Pay for all his expenses, if it's a cost thingy for their managers........
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May 23rd 2019, 09:13 PM   #103
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

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Anti-gun groups and the anti-vaxxers bus in loads of people to protest and stuff, no reason we can't bus in a bunch of CHP to testify. McKeown seems to have a thing for public institutions testifying, maybe it would knock some sense into her.
May 24th 2019, 06:10 AM   #104
 
  May 2016
  Portland

Reporting back from the trenches of the HB2314 fight ...

Yes, HB2314 effectively "died in committee" this year.

Even though the bill was unsuccessful, the effort riders put into it was exceptional, and much appreciated. I personally have been working on lane sharing bills for ~six years now, and I've never seen such support down in Salem. Many legislators told us "my constituents really support this!"; your emails and phone calls helped make that happen. THANK YOU!

We're organizing a Town Hall meeting in Portland mid-June, to let folks know what happened this year, and how we can build on this year's work. It'll also be a chance to ask questions. As soon as we nail down the time, day, and location details, I'll post them up here (as well as laneshareoregon.com).
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May 24th 2019, 06:41 AM   #105
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  Mar 2016
  Oregon

Lane split all the way from Beaverton to oregon city last night. Nobody honked or bitched, seems at least, that most drivers get it. I've done it off and on for years, mostly because I know full well the cost of getting pinched. It's just not worth the potential outcome if a cop wants to be a dick. Trust me, and I'm not talking money.
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