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May 9th 2016, 02:08 PM   #1
 SlimBeatty's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Beaverton, OR

  08 FZ1
Cager's don't know how to drive



And "I" got the finger
May 9th 2016, 02:13 PM   #2
 
  Feb 2016
  Shoreline

I don't think that's anything new - people always cut the corner when turning left at intersections.
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May 9th 2016, 02:13 PM   #3
 tchase's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Buckley

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Originally Posted by SlimBeatty


And "I" got the finger
You did enter the turn lane early

I think it's more about the passive aggressiveness of this state. We all have our moments the texting and driving is what really pisses me off.
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May 9th 2016, 02:17 PM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  '14 St3R, '05 DR650
Of course you got the finger - you were in his way!
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May 9th 2016, 02:25 PM   #5
 SlimBeatty's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Beaverton, OR

  08 FZ1
Quote:
Originally Posted by tchase
We all have our moments the texting and driving is what really pisses me off.
Not using a blinker and cutting corners pisses me off.

Quote:
Originally Posted by wooden
Of course you got the finger - you were in his way!
I should have just gotten out of his way, he must be entitled to the whole road.
May 9th 2016, 02:32 PM   #6
 tchase's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Buckley

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Originally Posted by SlimBeatty
Not using a blinker and cutting corners pisses me off.
I'm with you on the blinkers, they just don't use them around here.

But when I see this I stop where the yellow stops..
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May 9th 2016, 02:50 PM   #7
 SlimBeatty's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Beaverton, OR

  08 FZ1
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Originally Posted by tchase
But when I see this I stop where the yellow stops..
Good advise.
May 9th 2016, 03:19 PM   #8
 
  Jan 2016
  Beaverton

  '13 636, '14 N1k, DR650
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Originally Posted by tchase
But when I see this I stop where the yellow stops..
Unable to re-link the pic, but why on my green earth would you stop THERE at that exact light, at that exact intersection. That's the absolutely WORST place to be (case in point, OP).
  • Traffic to your right (that are in the "straight" lane) that may want to make a last minute move to the left can't see you.
  • On-coming traffic might be moving over for a bicyclist - or just being tarded (as in OP) won't see you.
  • Big vehicles turning right from the left-facing road may overshoot into that lane.
  • Emergency vehicles will often use that space when going through the intersection.

There's no reason to NOT be in the RIGHT side of that particular lane in that particular instance.

When in the LEFT most lane of travel (applies to any time you're in the left most lane - freeway, surface street, etc) you position yourself to the RIGHT side of the lane, not vise versa. I visibly cringe the 2 days a year I cage to work and see guys hugging the concrete wall (in the "fast" lane) all the way down the highway. (There was a video on Facebook not too long ago about a Tigard bike cop that about got taken out by a cager due to hugging the wall)

Reverse that when in the RIGHT most lane (your lane position should be LEFT).


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Originally Posted by SlimBeatty
Good advise.
No. Bad.
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May 9th 2016, 05:19 PM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Moses Lake, WA

  2013 Kawasaki Concours C-14, 2005 ZX-10R Kawasaki (Nekkid), '99 Yamaha TW-200
F***in cagers!
May 9th 2016, 06:06 PM   #10
 
  Jan 2016
  Newcastle, WA

  1995 Suzuki Katana
My first thought when watch the video: Stay right!

Just another commute....

You can see traffic turning left in front of you, coming from a blind side (big trucks blocking view for both you and the left turn folks) and should expect one or two (or all of them) to cut that corner when they don't see any vehicle's waiting to turn. Seems to be human nature to take a short cut when we can. The van driver would have pulled the same move, given the same finger, if you were in a car and honked at him. Pick you lane placement carefully when others view of you is blocked.

I will disagree though that the right side of the left lane is always the correct place to be, it's always situational. In the OP's case I would have come up on the right, slowed drastically as I got near the front and when no vehicle was immediately coming, then moved left a bit to be easier seen by those left turning autos before the commit to cutting the corner.

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May 9th 2016, 06:16 PM   #11
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  Feb 2016
  Rent'n

  2002 Honda RC51, 2005 Honda RC51
Ya know what is funny (read as: mutha fuckn dipshit) about the video?

The van driver is not ONE BIT surprised AAAAND has time to give you the finger (in the turn). So that means, he saw you when cutting the corner (and there is tons of space to go wide there).

There is no reaction of the vehicle what so ever.

I'm sorry for my cursing, but I am fucking tired of this shit. Yesterday, a fucking family in a minivan on my main street where I live and drive everyday came into my lane for a split second. I was not on my bike...

All I saw was, the tweenage passenger shove her fucking phone in her moms (the driver) face and the driver turned her head and swerved in my lane. Since I am a bike rider and always scanning, I saw this and moved to the right of my lane.

It's a madhouse and it is what we deal with...but jeeezus maan...why cant people just fucking driiiiiivvee with confidence and pay attention to what is going on around your vehicle...aaaand learn the rules of the road.
May 9th 2016, 07:28 PM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  Beaverton

This is the exact corner - 72nd and Durham - that someone else got cut off and ended up going over the bars (sorry, I don't remember who it was but a vid was posted on the old forum).

It seems to get worse out there every day.
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May 9th 2016, 07:36 PM   #13
 
  Jan 2016
  Beaverton

  '13 636, '14 N1k, DR650
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Originally Posted by skjeflo;
I will disagree though that the right side of the left lane is always the correct place to be, it's always situational.
I think you and I agree in principal.

Would it have been better if I used the phrase "nearly always".

For all intents and purposes...

Obviously, always adjust yourselves to the situation at hand kids.
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May 9th 2016, 10:25 PM   #14
 
  Jan 2016
  Newcastle, WA

  1995 Suzuki Katana
Quote:
Originally Posted by That One Guy
This is the exact corner - 72nd and Durham - that someone else got cut off and ended up going over the bars (sorry, I don't remember who it was but a vid was posted on the old forum).

It seems to get worse out there every day.

Thought that intersection looked familiar.....



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Originally Posted by Andenthal
I think you and I agree in principal.

Would it have been better if I used the phrase "nearly always".

For all intents and purposes...

Obviously, always adjust yourselves to the situation at hand kids.
Agreed!

Watching the video I saw at lease 4 cars making the turn ahead of the van, any one of them could have cut the corner or even turned directly into the turn lane, you can never tell until it happens. You can anticipate the worst situation and adapt your riding so that you are able to avoid those things that are most common or possible.

The basic thing that seemed to be missed by the OP was reading what the traffic was actually doing and acting to put himself in a better position/situation before the close call event. Far, far better to just avoid that kind of close call early than to be pissed about it later.
May 9th 2016, 10:30 PM   #15
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  bicicleta
Quote:
Originally Posted by Naza
The van driver is not ONE BIT surprised AAAAND has time to give you the finger (in the turn). So that means, he saw you when cutting the corner (and there is tons of space to go wide there).

There is no reaction of the vehicle what so ever.
You could say the same exact thing about the OP. Had time to honk and shout but didn't budge to the right an inch.
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