|Aug 26th 2016, 03:12 PM||#18|
I hope for a swift recovery, but with that being said, wtf dude?
Goes to show just because you have a badge doesn't make you have common sense. Not trying to hate on cops, but I mean come on. I just got back from a trip through Montana on the way to Yellowstone, I was in full leathers and full face the entire time and trust me it was hot af, even at 90+ mph.
But I will say that I have never seen a single LEO moto in proper gear.
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|Aug 26th 2016, 05:35 PM||#19|
Thurston County officials are optimistic about Sheriff John Snaza's recovery | The Olympian
"Snaza had been traveling Tuesday with a group of friends on Montana Route 200 at Milepost 23 near Noxon when he lost control of his 2009 Harley-Davidson while driving around a curve, said Trooper Steve Gaston of the Montana Highway Patrol. Snaza may have been trying to pass the other motorcyclists when he went off an embankment. He wasn’t wearing a helmet."
"Braniff said he wasn’t sure how experienced Snaza is on a motorcycle — but he said Snaza “hadn’t been riding that long.” He said Snaza purchased the motorcycle sometime in the past four or five months."
|Aug 26th 2016, 06:46 PM||#21|
Moses Lake, WA
2008 EX-650R Kawasaki 'Fighter, 2005 ZX-10R Kawasaki 'Fighter, '12/99 Yamaha TW-200
I'm no doctor, but I play one on the interweb. Sounds like a clear case of Bi_Jugular Testosterone Poisoning.
But not to make light of a fellow 'human' who is hurt and suffering, I hope he recovers and becomes an advocate for positive changes in motorcycling. I also feel bad for his family, since I am married to an identical twin and he has one, I can only begin to imagine the shared connection of pain and suffering.
If we live, we can learn, regardless of age or occupation.
|Aug 26th 2016, 07:00 PM||#22|
I was getting an espresso in Gig Harbor this afternoon when a dude rolls up on a black CBR600 and parks next to my bike. I was headed out any way and so I go over. We chat about my bike for a second, but he is all excited about his "new" bike. I asked him what year it was. 2004.
"How long you had it?"
"How long you been riding?"
(wait for it)
He smiles, and I _know_ that smile. We all do.
He has actual braces and looks to my old-ass eyes to be about 14.
He fires up his ride so I can hear the pipe. He says loud pipes are good....you know...
Damn. Be Safe, Little Buddy. I remember when I was you.
|Aug 26th 2016, 09:47 PM||#24|
Many years ago I was THAT dude. Most of us were....luck kept me safe.
Now it's experience, knowledge, maturity, etc. that keep me riding.
Blessed to have survived the dumbass days...and now I'm the advocate for training, preparation, etc.
I give many hours to OPRT and other agencies to help train riders. Put your money where your mouth is?
This is not the be all, end all of rider safety.....I wish we had more answers and solutions.
Incidents continue to happen.....tragic consequences for a few moments indiscretion.
And a huge shout out to guys like Damon, Derrick, Kirk, Jared P, Kim, et all, who give so much of their time and resources to help train our riding community.
|Aug 26th 2016, 10:01 PM||#25|
'06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, 05 Suzuki SV650
Update in the news says he did not suffer head injuries. Broken neck, punctured lung and a severely fractured arm that he may never be able to use again.
I am a firm believer in always wearing a helmet (full face at that), but this is a rare case where a helmet would not have made a difference.
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|Aug 26th 2016, 10:28 PM||#26|
It seems as if Sherrif Snaza was not a motor officer, that training may have helped this situation.
I service bikes for many of the LE Depts in the South Sound, PCSD, Lakewood, etc
The training they go through is pretty intense, and they do 6 month recertifications, etc
I "almost" wish we had similar training.
They bring the bikes in afterwards with smoked clutches, fried brakes, and yes, some occasional crash damage. They're very serious about officer safety and don't leave much on the field when they train.
I really like these guys, most are long time riders. Ride everything from BMWs, Harleys, FJRs, ZX14s. Most don't know, we have one that participates in OPRT track days on a GSXR 600.
Don't get me wrong, their job is public safety, (and writing citations), some are very serious about it.
That said, I'm really serious about my job, fixing bikes......and if I was an LEO, I'd likely be just as serious about that job.
Pretty sure most of you would get a ticket from me��
Edited by Zoomie on Aug 26th 2016 at 10:37 PM Reason: Proof read
|Aug 26th 2016, 10:50 PM||#27|
A couple years ago I took the experienced rider training course from PSS.
This course is a requirement for most servicemen to ride on base. Most of the students were there to get their card so that they could ride on base. I was one of the few who were there just to learn.
One of the instructors told us that he also teaches motorcycle police and that they receive advanced training that is not easily accessible to the general public.
If LEOs want to reduce motorcycle fatalities, maybe they will advocate to make these courses cheaper and perhaps required, instead of writing more tickets (the current policy..)
Edited by Scribbles on Aug 26th 2016 at 10:54 PM
|Aug 27th 2016, 03:38 AM||#28|
|Aug 27th 2016, 05:24 AM||#29|
Sometimes they learn some finesse and pass, and sometimes the bike goes home in the truck.
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