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Mar 13th 2019, 05:59 PM   #1
 PEPSIMILK's Avatar
 
  Mar 2019
  Cornelius OR

  '05 Ninja 250, '07 Zongshen Diamo 200
New in PDX, small displacement sport rider

Hi, glad to be a part of the forums here. I just moved to the PDX area this past August. I enjoy riding small sportbikes on scenic roads. I believe in the magic of the tiny sportbike and feel like they are capable of a lot more than people give them credit for. I like making them do things they aren't aupposed to. My current ride is the learners class Ninja 250, it's an '05, it has some Pirelli Sport Demons and the rear suspension is from a 2013. My dream bike is probably a JDM GSXR 400 from the late 90s. I'm excited to meet more of my fellow Riders and find more of the good spots around here.
Mar 13th 2019, 07:27 PM   #2
 TREX600's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Custer, WA

  Suzuki 09 GSXR 1000 Suzuki 09 DRZ 400SM 1970 Yamaha 250 DT1 Enduro
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Mar 13th 2019, 07:58 PM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  Washington County

  H-D
Welcome youngster. Some of us can remember when a 750 was a big bike and a 125 was small displacement. Enjoy your bike; they're all fun to ride.
Mar 13th 2019, 11:13 PM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

Ok, this is a pet peeve of mine. A 250 Ninja is NOT a 'beginners' bike. The bars are narrow, the seating position, while not as radical as some sport bikes, is still 'scrunched up' which is not ideal for a 'beginner'. While not as fast in acceleration as their big cousins they still hold their own on the corners. They are a small inexpensive high performance bike. I have raced and road ridden them, modified them, crashed (on the track) them. They are a great little bike.
Rant over.
I like the small bikes (all bikes actually) as well. When I bought a Yamaha YZFR3 I sold my last two 250 Ninja's. The R3 is a much more refined small bike and has torque down low so you don't have to wind it up to get to the power band. Hey! Need a center stand for that Ninja? I think I have two...
Welcome to the site!
Mar 14th 2019, 06:17 AM   #5
DGA
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  An Ape and a Husky
Welcome aboard. As the weather gets better and days longer look for Wednesday (west side) rides and Thursday (east side) rides. Great way to get to see some fun local roads.
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Mar 14th 2019, 07:41 AM   #6
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  Jan 2016
  Hazel Dell, Wa

  Honda VFR800, Husqvarna TE 610, Ducati Hypermotard 1100S, Suzuki VStrom 650, Yamaha Radian, MZ 125SM
Welcome Pepsimilk. "All I wanted was a Pepsi, and she wouldn't give it to me!" Small bikes are super fun, especially around town. I have a garage full of bikes and for around town riding, I love using my little MZ 125SM.


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Originally Posted by Parilla125
Ok, this is a pet peeve of mine. A 250 Ninja is NOT a 'beginners' bike. The bars are narrow, the seating position, while not as radical as some sport bikes, is still 'scrunched up' which is not ideal for a 'beginner'. While not as fast in acceleration as their big cousins they still hold their own on the corners. They are a small inexpensive high performance bike. I have raced and road ridden them, modified them, crashed (on the track) them. They are a great little bike.
Rant over.
I completely disagree. I used to have a little N250 and it's absolutely a beginner bike. Not everyone wants a Honda Rebel 250. In fact, I started off with a Kawasaki Z750s and that was a great beginner bike!
Mar 14th 2019, 08:50 AM   #7
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  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

I was not talking about 'want', I was talking about seating and bar position. If you are just starting out having 'ease of control' is better. Light, wider bars for more leverage, upright seating position to get the weight off of the wrists, feet and legs able to get off of the pegs and to the ground quicker is best for starting out. Can you start out on a bigger bike, or a performance bike? Sure. A lot of people have. Still not the best idea.
Cheap? Yes, it is. Looks and acts like a sportbike? Yes, it does. Does not mean it is a good option for a 'beginner'.
A 'standard' is still a better option to start out on or at least to learn on. Maybe borrow one to get a few hours riding time at least so the 'muscle memory' gets started.
Mar 14th 2019, 09:22 AM   #8
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  Apr 2016
  Seattle, WA

  '79 XS650; '01 FZ1
There's some great racing up here in WA in the Ninja 250 class (WMRRA)... I also think OMRRA has a Ninja 250 Cup, as well as your bike would likely qualify for ultra-lightweight supersport. So if you wanna really push that bike, racing is where it's at!
Mar 14th 2019, 10:55 AM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Hazel Dell, Wa

  Honda VFR800, Husqvarna TE 610, Ducati Hypermotard 1100S, Suzuki VStrom 650, Yamaha Radian, MZ 125SM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Parilla125
I was not talking about 'want', I was talking about seating and bar position. If you are just starting out having 'ease of control' is better. Light, wider bars for more leverage, upright seating position to get the weight off of the wrists, feet and legs able to get off of the pegs and to the ground quicker is best for starting out. Can you start out on a bigger bike, or a performance bike? Sure. A lot of people have. Still not the best idea.
Cheap? Yes, it is. Looks and acts like a sportbike? Yes, it does. Does not mean it is a good option for a 'beginner'.
A 'standard' is still a better option to start out on or at least to learn on. Maybe borrow one to get a few hours riding time at least so the 'muscle memory' gets started.
With all due respect, and I'm sincere about that, I'm having a hard time understanding your logic. For me, the N250 was a very easy and very 'standard' like seating position instead of a 'sportbike' tucked position. It was mostly stock, but with better suspension to handle the twisties nicely. But I'd also been riding for about 5 years when I bought it, and my main bike was/is a VFR800 with bar risers. I'm about 70" with a 32" inseam, so not tall, and not short. I view the N250 as a 'standard' with 'sportbike' looks and I could even argue against that as well, but I see it as a comfortable, upright, easy to operate bike, with good top end speed to keep up with freeway traffic, but not too much torque down low where a beginner could get hurt getting out of the proverbial gate (as opposed to my Hypermotard 1100s which has unholy amounts of torque and is absolutely not for beginners- even ones that are cautious and careful!)

Edit: ya know, I just remembered that I had a lowered seat on my N250 and so it was more 'upright' than that standard seat height which would bring one into more of a tuck. I actually still have the seat, just in case I ever bought another one. However, I still stand behind my argument.

Edited by Flyboymedic on Mar 14th 2019 at 11:03 AM
Mar 14th 2019, 06:42 PM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

“But I'd also been riding for about 5 years”

Sooooo, you still considered yourself a ‘beginner’? I thought that is what we were talking about? Sorry, I must have misunderstood. All good. Ride on!
Mar 15th 2019, 05:47 PM   #11
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  Apr 2016
  PDX

  L3 GSX-R750, Versys LT
Welcome to the forum, hopefully our activity picks up as we are entering peak season! All bikes are cool, unfortunately for me bikes such as the Ninja 400 which really interest me are completely out of the question as I'm not a small person (6'3")

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Welcome aboard. As the weather gets better and days longer look for Wednesday (west side) rides and Thursday (east side) rides. Great way to get to see some fun local roads.
Ya bring that 250 to a Wednesday
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