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Apr 13th 2018, 05:25 AM   #1
 
  Mar 2018
  Gig Harbor

  2003 VROD 100th Anniversary
Why me? Already... low sided the VROD

Taking a turn as a BMW started pulling across the lane. Laid her down. Banged up knees and ankle but no real injuries. Luckily the BMW stopped a little less than halfway into the lane and I slid clear of the car.

Damage appears cosmetic except the handle bars are broken in half from it sliding under their bumper.

Dude was nice enough. But this kind of sucks.

Edited to add details:

Location - Fauntleroy Way and Avalon Way
Road Conditions - Wet

Video is partially blocked by the eaves of the building the camera is on, but it shows the gist of what happened.

What Happened:
I was riding on Fauntleroy Way and was turning right on Avalon. Just before I got to the turn some jackass in a big cargo van did an illegal left turn onto Avalon (coming from the opposite way on Fauntleroy). My guess is the BMW driver was distracted by this DBag and that's why he started pulling out on me. Time between the van making the illegal turn and BMW starting to pull out was around 3 seconds.

DBag Van:


DBag Van After Making his BS Turn:



Me about to play tag with the BMW as he started pulling out:



What I could have done better:

We had just come around a garbage truck that was blocking the right (turning) lane, so my angle of attack on the turn was higher than normal. I definitely feel this was the primary issue on my part. Had I been taking it tighter like I normally do, then I would have had room to go around. I also could have put more pressure on my front brake and less on the rear as it was the rear that finally slid out. There may have been enough room to maneuver around if the rear hadn't locked. Blinker was on and I wasn't speeding.

Feel free to critique.
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Edited by Didley on Apr 13th 2018 at 08:45 AM
Apr 13th 2018, 05:57 AM   #2
 Mudslinger's Avatar
 
  Sep 2016
  Seabeck

  Africa Twin
Anything you can walk away from. Handlebars are an easy fix.
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Apr 13th 2018, 06:06 AM   #3
 Burphel's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Travelling around the NW

  Triumph Bonnezilla, Little Ninja
Lowside = Excuse to customize/upgrade.
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Apr 13th 2018, 06:11 AM   #4
 
  Mar 2018
  Gig Harbor

  2003 VROD 100th Anniversary
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burphel
Lowside = Excuse to customize/upgrade.
I like the way you think. Lol.

Was happy to keep my head off the pavement and not ruin my brand new Shoei at least.
Apr 13th 2018, 06:28 AM   #5
 CaptainAwesome's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  WA

  Harley Davidson LR-S
Well that sucks. Glad you're ok though.

Handle bars are a pretty inexpensive replace... what happened to your headlight?
Apr 13th 2018, 06:56 AM   #6
 unicykle's Avatar
 
  Sep 2017
  milwaukie oregon

  Aprilia rsvr gsxr600 gsxr1000
Probable needed Some drag bars anyway, long as it runs and rides
Good, some rash just eases my mind.
Apr 13th 2018, 07:13 AM   #7
 VeritasImageryNW's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
That sucks. Just curious, as a learning tool for everyone, what other details of the accident are there?

Country road, speed, panic brake and lock front, panic brake and lock rear, was there a way to avoid "laying it down"?

It's always good to analyze after an accident and see if there was anything that could have been done differently. Sometimes there is, and sometimes there isn't. I try to do that after every close call as well.

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Apr 13th 2018, 07:14 AM   #8
 
  Mar 2018
  Gig Harbor

  2003 VROD 100th Anniversary
Wrecked in front of the Alki lumber yard and they caught it on security footage.

Wet roads, locked up rear.

Let me review the video in a bit and I’ll give a critique of what I could have done better.

Edited by Didley on Apr 13th 2018 at 08:02 AM
Apr 13th 2018, 07:22 AM   #9
 Cougar's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Richland

  Yamaha FZ1, KTM Super Duke GT, Yamaha FJR, Yamaha XS650
Quote:
Originally Posted by unicykle
Probable needed Some drag bars anyway, long as it runs and rides
Good, some rash just eases my mind.
No need for road rash at all. ATGATT.
Apr 13th 2018, 07:59 AM   #10
 
  Mar 2018
  Lynden, WA

  2004 Yamaha V-Star 1100 Classic (California edition)
Glad you are ok!
Apr 13th 2018, 08:34 AM   #11
 Mudslinger's Avatar
 
  Sep 2016
  Seabeck

  Africa Twin
Lets see the video. Please, please, please.
Apr 13th 2018, 08:46 AM   #12
 
  Mar 2018
  Gig Harbor

  2003 VROD 100th Anniversary
Thanks, all. Edited the first post to include details of what happened as well as some images.
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Apr 13th 2018, 08:55 AM   #13
 Sentinel's Avatar
 
  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Didley
Thanks, all. Edited the first post to include details of what happened as well as some images.
what are your thoughts on abs?

your bike has it?

or, if not, you t hink it would have helped?

seems like, given the details of your experience, abs might have prevented the rearend from coming around?

waddya think?
Apr 13th 2018, 09:29 AM   #14
 
  Mar 2018
  Gig Harbor

  2003 VROD 100th Anniversary
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentinel
what are your thoughts on abs?

your bike has it?

or, if not, you t hink it would have helped?

seems like, given the details of your experience, abs might have prevented the rearend from coming around?

waddya think?
Never had a bike with ABS, but think it probably would have helped here. It laid down before I had fully decided that's what I needed to do, so ABS might have given me a half second longer to decide.
Apr 13th 2018, 09:41 AM   #15
 VeritasImageryNW's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Didley
Wet roads, locked up rear.
I think you have a partial answer here, and as alluded to in your edit to the original post.

Sounds like you jammed on your rear brake, locking it up. Once locked up, you lose all stopping power. It's important to remember that the majority of your stopping power is in the front brakes. The other part is to remember to "squeeze", not "grab" the brakes. One thing many of us fail to do is to practice emergency braking, in varying conditions.

Any time I hear someone say "I had to lay it down", or something similar, I can pretty much guess that they stomped on the rear brake and failed to utilize their front brakes properly.

Also, as I read your description of the incident I am wondering if you had gone into a condition "red" or at least "orange" prior to the BMW pulling out. First off, you say you had just passed a garbage truck that was partially blocking the road. That should have been warning number one to slow and cover the front brake because other traffic's view would also be blocked as well as it altering the normal path of travel. Then there was the turning truck, warning number two. Not sure what the speed limit is on that part of roadway, but 3 seconds should have been plenty of time to stop had you heeded the prior warnings, slowed and prepared for any possible situation.

Personally I chalk this up to still needing to dust off some cobwebs after a period of not riding. As well as riding a bike you are still getting familiar with. Shit happens, but as long as we learn from it and aren't seriously injured, all's good.
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Edited by VeritasImageryNW on Apr 13th 2018 at 09:51 AM
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