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May 4th 2020, 07:33 PM   #61
 MikeMikeMike's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Seattle

Something like 20% of the electricity in the US is nuclear. I am a fan of nuclear power, fission can be done safely. But I would argue it’s not an answer for the future, regardless of the fuel mix it is long term dirty. Once fusion exists we will not look back. It’s the whale fueled lamps of our predecessors. Maybe on board carriers and subs fission will still “make sense”, but I’m not sure about the long term viability of military systems intended to end the world...

I guess my opinion on nuclear is that it’s a stop gap between modern options, and the better technologies of the future. It operates around the clock, has a tiny foot print in terms of square feet, and can be safely done. But having a deadly waste by product which requires its own unit of measure for duration, makes me think we should use it sparingly.
May 4th 2020, 09:42 PM   #62
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  Apr 2018
  Tri-cities

  Yamaha 650
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Originally Posted by MikeMikeMike
We will just plod along between two very different visions of the future, staggering back and forth every 4-8 years until our entitlement state finally over burdens our ability to finance debt and austerity measures are implemented. That will be a wake up call to many American's and maybe we will finally implement some basic reforms that have been necessary ever since the 1930's (balanced budget amendment, term limits).

The only significant difference between the two parties is the lobbyists they listen to. Republicans favor defense spending and generally big business, while Democrats push labor, social welfare, academic spending, and other big businesses.

Everything else is really just window dressing to try and broaden their appeal.

Should we lower the price of gasoline and or develop new fission technologies? Well we should let the market decide, does it make sense to spend $1B to turn crude oil into magical go juice, or would that money be better spent in LSR thorium/uranium plants to push electrons out into the world? We actually live in such a hampered "free market" economy, that basic economics don't drive capital investment in established markets. Existing players make it impossible for new entries to compete with them. The only really dynamic fields in our economy are in the emerging markets, and those quickly stagnate once a few key players generate enough capital to begin influencing the Government.

So without some magical breakthrough in fusion technology we will just be circling the austerity drain until the collapse. My advice, go out and enjoy the sunset of the petroleum fueled economy, and invest in some land and a huge house on the periphery of a major city. Grow a garden, enjoy life, and wait.
Stop making sense!!!!
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May 4th 2020, 10:43 PM   #63
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Aprilia Scarabeo
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Originally Posted by MikeMikeMike
Something like 20% of the electricity in the US is nuclear. I am a fan of nuclear power, fission can be done safely. But I would argue itís not an answer for the future, regardless of the fuel mix it is long term dirty. Once fusion exists we will not look back. Itís the whale fueled lamps of our predecessors. Maybe on board carriers and subs fission will still ďmake senseĒ, but Iím not sure about the long term viability of military systems intended to end the world...

I guess my opinion on nuclear is that itís a stop gap between modern options, and the better technologies of the future. It operates around the clock, has a tiny foot print in terms of square feet, and can be safely done. But having a deadly waste by product which requires its own unit of measure for duration, makes me think we should use it sparingly.
Breeder reactors eliminate the waste problem. Otherwise, agree.
May 5th 2020, 08:11 AM   #64
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2019 Nada
No one wants to hear this, but a paradigm shift is on the way.
We only have to clear out the old thinking to make room for something new (that is as old as old is).
Just sticking close to home - the solar system is electro-magnetic.
The sun is an anode and the planets and all their moons are in a circuit with the sun.
The system is in a larger circuit and it is highly likely that we orbit around the Sirius system or that the two systems orbit a sort of LaGrange point as an entangled pair.
All the energy in the universe has been freely available to us all along.
Tesla invented nothing.
He remembered something, and worked with old ideas that have been around as long as humanity has been around.
Edison wanted to put a meter on it though.
We live with that legacy.
We live inside of an unlimited energy system yet we burn things to get heat and light and motion.
Once we free ourselves of the yoke we have donned and take back control of ourselves we will "discover" what has been known forever.
THAT is what will get us out of this mess, and not fusion or windmills.
But first we have to change ourselves.
Our minds have been captured.
Most of us can't think for ourselves.
And the saddest part is that there is a barrier in the slave programming that says "GET BACK!" if the programmed mind gets too close to seeing its programming.
That barrier is experienced in various ways - ridicule, fear, mocking of new ideas, belittling of those who try to make things better or have farther vision. These reactions to novel ideas are a piece of software contained within the slave programming to keep the slave mind from liberating itself.
when we begin to help each other overcome this programming we will begin to see -more- and our whole deal will change.
May 5th 2020, 09:52 AM   #65
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  Jan 2016
  NW Oregon

I've always liked the Solar Power Satellite concept. Immense high-efficiency solar arrays that work 24/7 and don't even have to support their own weight against gravity.*

The trick is beaming the power down; not the technical hurdles but the perception: there's nothing unsafe about it but given that there are normal-looking people a stone's throw from where you're sitting right now who genuinely believe that jet contrails are literally a Satanic plot between the CIA and the Muslims to make your gun barrels go limp and dangly and afflict Real American blue-eyed blonde white children with a new kind of super-gay AIDS, "death rays from above" could be kind of a PR problem.

(*Also we should mine the materials and manufacture them in space using semi-autonomous remotes; launching them from the bottom of a gravity well is stupid)
May 5th 2020, 11:43 AM   #66
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  Jan 2016
  Garden Home

  2012 Versys...'83 BMW R80 RT...Suzuki GS 450t
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Originally Posted by Sentinel
No one wants to hear this, but a paradigm shift is on the way.
We only have to clear out the old thinking to make room for something new (that is as old as old is).
Just sticking close to home - the solar system is electro-magnetic.
The sun is an anode and the planets and all their moons are in a circuit with the sun.
The system is in a larger circuit and it is highly likely that we orbit around the Sirius system or that the two systems orbit a sort of LaGrange point as an entangled pair.
All the energy in the universe has been freely available to us all along.
Tesla invented nothing.
He remembered something, and worked with old ideas that have been around as long as humanity has been around.
Edison wanted to put a meter on it though.
We live with that legacy.
We live inside of an unlimited energy system yet we burn things to get heat and light and motion.
Once we free ourselves of the yoke we have donned and take back control of ourselves we will "discover" what has been known forever.
THAT is what will get us out of this mess, and not fusion or windmills.
But first we have to change ourselves.
Our minds have been captured.
Most of us can't think for ourselves.
And the saddest part is that there is a barrier in the slave programming that says "GET BACK!" if the programmed mind gets too close to seeing its programming.
That barrier is experienced in various ways - ridicule, fear, mocking of new ideas, belittling of those who try to make things better or have farther vision. These reactions to novel ideas are a piece of software contained within the slave programming to keep the slave mind from liberating itself.
when we begin to help each other overcome this programming we will begin to see -more- and our whole deal will change.
sorry but I have just got to ask..and I'm pretty damned sure others are wondering too...is this satire? did you copy it outta a national lampoon copy?

do you know that Neptune and Uranus switched orbits at one time and that if Saturn hadn't stopped it Jupiter would've destroyed our solar system? yes things in our universe are interconnected..but in ways I don't think you're actually aware of...
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May 6th 2020, 08:14 AM   #67
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2019 Nada
the world aint what you think it is.
or, more precisely, it is EXACTLY what you THINK it is.









Edited by Sentinel on May 6th 2020 at 08:18 AM
May 6th 2020, 12:16 PM   #68
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  Jan 2016
  Garden Home

  2012 Versys...'83 BMW R80 RT...Suzuki GS 450t
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Originally Posted by Sentinel
the world aint what you think it is.
or, more precisely, it is EXACTLY what you THINK it is.
I know it's not what you think it is...
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