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Mar 2nd 2017, 11:06 PM   #1
 Seattlesucks's Avatar
 
  Feb 2017
  Your mom's house

What's been up in MotoGP the last couple years?

I stopped following because it just bummed me out that I wasn't able to go ride. I can ride again. What's the best spot to catch up on what's been happening in MotoGP?
Mar 3rd 2017, 09:18 AM   #2
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  Jan 2016
  Lebanon, OR

  2014 Interceptor, 2012 ZX6R
My memory might be a little fuzzy but here goes.
2013 - Marc Marcquez shows up, sweeps the championship. Valentino does alright on Yamaha. Jorge does alright when he isn't crashing. Ducati averages about 11th.
2014 - Same as 2013
2015 - Marc does badly. Jorge wins the championship after race direction penalizes Valentino. Ducati sprouts wings. Suzuki returns to GP, does OK. A seagull gets hit at Philip Island.
2016 - Marc does really well. Jorge has a chip on his shoulder and announces he's going to Ducati next year, Yamaha team doesn't back him as much. Suzuki does pretty well despite being underpowered. There are 9 different winners. Cal Crutchlow does pretty good and actually smiles a few times. Maverick Vinales really shines. Jack Miller wins a rain race after a few factory bikes crash out. Nickey Hayden filled in for Dani Pedrosa after an injury, was doing OK until Jack Miller torpedoed him.

Wikipedia or Crash.net archives is a good place to look up whats been happening.
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Mar 3rd 2017, 07:52 PM   #3
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

Marquez wouldn't have won in 2013 if he hadn't torpedoed his own teammate, breaking his collar bone, and probably costing him the championship.
Mar 3rd 2017, 08:01 PM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  Silverdale, WA

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Right here:
MotoGP?

I paid for the video pass last year to watch the races. Going to do it again this year.
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Mar 5th 2017, 09:47 AM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Muklilteo, WA

  Suzuki DL1000, Honda XR650R, KTM 250 XC-W
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Originally Posted by Ralgha
Marquez wouldn't have won in 2013 if he hadn't torpedoed his own teammate, breaking his collar bone, and probably costing him the championship.
Really?! "Torpedoed"?! I think this is how fake news starts? Marc barely brushed Dani entering a turn on the outside, but unfortunately the bit he did touch was the rear wheel speed sensor. The sensor broke off the swing arm causing the traction control to malfunction. This probably assisted in Dani highsiding while exiting the turn well after the light contact with Marc. Suggesting that this incident cost Dani the championship is a huge leap. See crash here, far from a torpedo:

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Edited by PeteN95 on Mar 5th 2017 at 09:55 AM
Mar 6th 2017, 08:18 AM   #6
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

Fake news huh? There's nothing incorrect about what I said, merely opinion, and there's nothing fake about opinions, despite what Trump wants you to believe.

Marquez rode like an asshole up until this last season, he did crash people out quite a few times (often taking himself out as well), and he never takes responsibility for his actions (which is what pisses me off the most about him). 99% chance that Dani would not have crashed if Marquez hadn't broken his speed sensor. He was on pace to win that race, and if he had done so, and nothing else had changed about the following races, he would have finished with 325 points, and Marquez would have had 329, so yes, there's a good chance that it cost him the championship.
Mar 6th 2017, 08:49 AM   #7
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
This is what I think of when some one mentions "torpedoed":

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Mar 6th 2017, 09:38 AM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  BFE PNW

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Last year was outstanding, 4 different manufactures taking wins plus 9 different riders was awesome. Marquez won the championship because he learned to be consistent, rather than win it or bin it. Not mentioned, but relevant is the tire change and standardized ECU hardware. this year should be really good, FWIW, I subscribe to the videopass from MotoGP, it's worth it despite Nick Harris.
Mar 6th 2017, 02:17 PM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  somewhere

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Originally Posted by VeritasImageryNW
This is what I think of when some one mentions "torpedoed":

Mar 6th 2017, 04:06 PM   #10
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  Apr 2016
  PDX

  2014 675R, 2015 Versys LT
I'm not an "avid" MotoGP fan but loved Hitting The Apex doc, i think it's on Amazon Prime. Might be Netflix as well

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Mar 6th 2017, 06:08 PM   #11
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there was a guy that won. then another guy won. now you're all caught up.
Mar 7th 2017, 06:32 PM   #12
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  Feb 2017
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Man Nicky looked pissed.

Are there no American factory riders left? Guess I'll root for the Scottish guy on the KTM. Scottish guy on a German bike is basically an American, right?
Mar 8th 2017, 04:15 AM   #13
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  Apr 2016
  Molalla

  2007 Aprilia Tuono Factory, 2010 Honda VFR 1200f DCT
Almost any global sporting event is ruled by Euro's right now..notwithstanding the lame ass American football, the NBA (which is a joke), and MLB (love baseball, but season is too long and they make sooo much money and are inaccessible). Tennis is ruled by Euro's, bicycling, soccer, F1 racing, MotoGP, etc. I can't give an educated, link dominated reason why, but common sense tells me that Americans these days only care about violent activities. Like anything other than 2 dudes (or 2 females, for that matter), beating each other unconscious is "gay". Anywhoo...the Euro's took Kenny Roberts' idea of dirt tracking to learn how to steer with the rear end (throttle steering), and ran with it. Not to mention a majority of the MotoGP worthy tracks are in Europe/Asia/S. America, it's no wonder that 'Mericans don't care about motorcycling anymore, other than dirt riding, of course.

Seems to me that since MotoGP ended their Laguna Seca contract, interest in MotoGP has fallen here in the states, especially on the left coast. I made the trip in '05, and it was the Shit, but to do it again is almost unthinkable, I would rather watch the awesome TV coverage. Since only a handful of guys really have a shot at winning on a regular basis (I know, there were like 7 diff winners last year, an anomaly IMHO), people get tired of seeing the same soulless, immature, whiny little Euro bitches on the podium every week. With MotoGP changing the rules almost weekly these days (ECU's, tires, engine CC size, etc), it's hard for the average couch-potato fan to keep up with what's really going on on race day.

And knowing a family that was really giving their son a go in the road racing circuit here in the states, it's REALLY expensive, hard to find decent sponsors, the travel is way more brutal than in Europe just because of the distances involved, and the politics of racing is just cut-throat. Every dad out there thinks his kid is the next Rossi. Here in the PNW, it's ultra tuff if not just because there really aren't any decent tracks locally that youngsters can learn the trade. I would say it's safe to say we've seen the last of Americans competing for a MotoGP title anytime soon.
Mar 8th 2017, 08:43 AM   #14
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

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Almost any global sporting event is ruled by Euro's right now..America, it's no wonder that 'Mericans don't care about motorcycling anymore, other than dirt riding, of course.
Roadracing has always been, primarily, a European sport. It has never had major popularity in the US, even when American riders were dominating the 500GP and WSBK championships.

Motorsports in the US is primarily turning left, going straight, or jumping really high in football stadiums.

The other aspect, contrary to the idea that the Europeans took King Kenny's riding style, is that the bikes have been developed to more suit the European riding style. There is a lot less "dirt tracking" involved in riding the electronically controlled machines, hence the massive lean angles we are seeing now, rather than the "back it in and powerslide it out" style that the 500s needed.

Combine that with a complete lack of a "feeder" series in this country, and we see fewer Americans being competitive. Though PJ Jacobson is coming on in World SuperSport. The AMA roadracing series was decimated over the past decade by NASCAR to the point of only having 5 races, and all east of the Mississippi. With Wayne Rainey's MotoAmerica taking over the reins, and their synching the rules to closer match WSBK, we are starting to see the situation turn around. Honda has reentered the fray, and we can hope that the other manufacturers are soon there as well.

The reality, though, is that we will never see the popularity of roadracing, of either kind, come even close to the popularity it has in places like Spain and Italy. Those places have been nuts for roadracing since the introduction the the gas engine. Americans just don't get it.
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Mar 8th 2017, 09:12 AM   #15
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  Jan 2016
  Lebanon, OR

  2014 Interceptor, 2012 ZX6R
In Spain and Italy they start their racers out at 3 years old.
In the US there aren't many avenues to do it. There's the M1GP in California that's starting little kids on pocket bikes but I'm not sure where they can go with it as far as a real race series until they're teens.
WERA/AFM/AMA aren't in the business of preparing riders to shoot for MotoGP or WSBK. There isn't a Red Bull rookie cup in North America yet.
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