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Mar 22nd 2020, 06:47 AM   #1
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  Jul 2018
  Mill Creek

  06 SV650S
Post Washington 3 second following distance in the manual.

The 12/2019 release of the Washington Motorcycle Operators Manual changed from two seconds minimum to three.

Following Distance
A minimum following distance of three seconds is recommended for both two- and three-wheeled motorcycles.
Remember that three seconds is the absolute minimum, meant for ideal conditions.
You should adjust your following distances to account for things like weather, fatigue, poor surface conditions, and traffic.

Washington Motomanual Link


It's interesting they say the 4-second rule in MSF is for urgent reaction time. But following distance could be only two seconds. That has always seemed weird to me, however this is a step in the right direction?

My recommendation is to remember not to cheat yourself when you are counting seconds out there. One-motorcycle-one, two-motorcycle-two, three-motorcycle-three, takes longer to count. Stay safe out there.
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Edited by Andonon on Mar 22nd 2020 at 06:48 AM Reason: Update the Motomanual link.
Mar 23rd 2020, 08:48 PM   #2
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  Jan 2016
  Kennewick

  Versys 1000 SE LT+, Ural Patrol and a shit load of BN125
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andonon


It's interesting they say the 4-second rule in MSF is for urgent reaction time. But following distance could be only two seconds. That has always seemed weird to me, however this is a step in the right direction?
I was never sure why the MSF advocated a minimum 2 second following rule. I guess 3 and 4 seconds were already taken.

Keep in mind the 2 second rule is for following traffic moving in the same direction. They must have figured you could recognize the problem and react in 2 seconds then stop quicker than the car in front of you. Fail any of those, you lose. 4 second is for reacting to crossing traffic. Still not a lot of time. MSF still advocates 2 seconds minimum, but the state decided to put 3 minimum in their manual. Good for them! Still not a lot of time if you are not on top of your game.

I agree, give yourself as much time and space as you can and take what traffic conditions allow. Sometimes it is tough, so you had better be good or lucky or make other adjustments if you can't get the space and time you need!

Edited by Bald Guy on Mar 23rd 2020 at 08:51 PM
Mar 24th 2020, 05:22 AM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  Moses Lake, WA

  2013 Kawasaki Concours C-14, 2005 ZX-10R Kawasaki (Nekkid), '99 Yamaha TW-200
Following....?
Mar 26th 2020, 04:36 PM   #4
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2019 Nada
following time.
just saying.
Mar 27th 2020, 04:32 PM   #5
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  Feb 2016
  Seattle

The problem with leaving a gap too large is that's just an invitation for other vehicles to use that space to "merge". I'm not opposed to letting people change lanes in an orderly fashion. But we all know that if moderate/heavy traffic is flowing at a good clip, the last thing you want is some jackhole standing on the loud pedal, getting in front of you by a few inches, flying over into your lane of travel, and then slamming on the brake pedal.

Honestly in most big city traffic that following time is less than a second.

Far from ideal from a one-dimensional safety prospective, but c'est la vie.
Mar 27th 2020, 05:49 PM   #6
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  Jan 2016
  Seabeck

  '08 GSX1300R, '06 GSX-R 750, '16 KTM 690 Duke
I'm confused. I thought it was supposed to be 6'...
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