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Jun 1st 2016, 10:18 AM   #1
 
  Jan 2016
  Beaverton

  '13 636, '14 N1k, DR650
Vintage bikes banned in Paris.

The article focuses mainly on cars, but there is a snippet in there about motorcycles.

Older cars will be banned from Paris as of July | The Verge

The article states that any bike registered before 1999 will be banned as of July 1st (I read this as "manufactured" - possible language translation error).

It says by 2020, cars older than 10 years will be banned, and will likely be at least more restrictive for bikes (likely more restrictive).

A heads up for yous guys riding older rides in case this ever takes effect here.

Let the whining commence.
Jun 1st 2016, 08:09 PM   #2
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  Monsters
Why don't they ban diesel trucks before they ban old motorcycles?
Jun 1st 2016, 08:56 PM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  Beijing

  Honda CBF190R
Similar where I live: bikes older than 11 years can't be registered anymore... So sad.


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Jun 1st 2016, 09:02 PM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle, WA

  Ducati + KTM
When the day comes, will they make an exception for electric motorcycles, assuming the batteries are serviceable and will last that long...
Jun 1st 2016, 10:22 PM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Washington County

  H-D
Herein is one of the few advantages of being a senior citizen. In my lifetime I've enjoyed my British cars even though they leaked enough oil to frighten Greenpeace. I loved my two-stroke motorcycles although they smoked enough to give Al Gore heart failure. I drove my vintage diesel truck for nine years in parades and car shows despite its dismal fuel mileage and significant emissions. I finally donated it to a rural city that was glad to have it. I still have my 70's vintage German car. I ride a Harley that is not as whisper silent as newer motorcycles. I offer no apologies.

By the time we have reliable and emission free vehicles (two and four wheeled) whose motive power is not in and of itself environmentally damaging, by the time all these are autonomous transport, I will have died.

Like the horsemen who bemoaned the coming of the internal combustion engine, I am a Luddite who will be sad to see these things that brought me joy being put away never to be used again or appreciated by the younger generations in the future. They'll never know what they missed.
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Jun 1st 2016, 10:25 PM   #6
 
  Jan 2016
  Beaverton

  '13 636, '14 N1k, DR650
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Originally Posted by Lena
Why don't they ban diesel trucks before they ban old motorcycles?
Passenger (non-commercial) trucks?
They (for all intents and purposes) don't exist in most of Europe.
Jun 1st 2016, 10:26 PM   #7
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  Jan 2016
  Bainbridge Island

  Ducati ST4
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Originally Posted by 307T
Herein is one of the few advantages of being a senior citizen. In my lifetime I've enjoyed my British cars even though they leaked enough oil to frighten Greenpeace. I loved my two-stroke motorcycles although they smoked enough to give Al Gore heart failure. I drove my vintage diesel truck for nine years in parades and car shows despite its dismal fuel mileage and significant emissions. I finally donated it to a rural city that was glad to have it. I still have my 70's vintage German car. I ride a Harley that is not as whisper silent as newer motorcycles. I offer no apologies.

By the time we have reliable and emission free vehicles (two and four wheeled) whose motive power is not in and of itself environmentally damaging, by the time all these are autonomous transport, I will have died.

Like the horsemen who bemoaned the coming of the internal combustion engine, I am a Luddite who will be sad to see these things that brought me joy being put away never to be used again or appreciated by the younger generations in the future. They'll never know what they missed.
What HE Said...
This is why I built my daughter a 50 year old Volvo Wagon as her daily driver...
Small piece of history...
Jun 2nd 2016, 06:34 AM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Beijing

  Honda CBF190R
Quote:
Originally Posted by 307T
By the time we have reliable and emission free vehicles (two and four wheeled) whose motive power is not in and of itself environmentally damaging, by the time all these are autonomous transport, I will have died.

Like the horsemen who bemoaned the coming of the internal combustion engine, I am a Luddite who will be sad to see these things that brought me joy being put away never to be used again or appreciated by the younger generations in the future. They'll never know what they missed.
And we'll never know what they will have... hopefully future generations will have some seriously cool toys to play with.

Unless, of course, our cherished "pastimes of a bygone era" destroy any future they might have.

Conservatism! It was better yesterday...

really?
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Jun 2nd 2016, 06:51 AM   #9
 
  Jan 2016
  92 miles from Windy Ridge, Mt. St. Helens

  2017 FZ-07; Z1000 Kawi; '84+'85 RZ350; '76 RD400; '74 & '75 RD350; '66 Suzuki X6 250..a few others
Quote:
Originally Posted by 307T
Herein is one of the few advantages of being a senior citizen.

I love my two-stroke motorcycles although they smoke enough to give ANYONE heart failure.

I offer no apologies.

By the time we have reliable and emission free vehicles (two and four wheeled) whose motive power is not in and of itself environmentally damaging, by the time all these are autonomous transport, I will have died.

I will be sad to see these things that brought me joy being put away never to be used again or appreciated by the younger generations in the future. They'll never know what they missed.
You seem more articulate than I so I'm stealing some of your words

I've often plagiarized another statement to say:

"They can have my two-strokes when they pry them from my cold, dead
hands."

These days, I don't have much of a desire to ride anything but my smokers. The Z1000 doesn't interest me much anymore. I fell in love with these bikes when I was 18, and never fell out of love with 'em.

No matter what new stuff comes along, I always gravitate back to the RD350, RD400 or one of the RZ350s. The RD125 is for whimsical runs up to a friend's home in Woodland and back, 62 miles total on some fun little roads along I-5. The RD60 has mainly served as a trainer for total Noobs to get their feet wet. The rest, waiting patently for resurrection.
Jun 2nd 2016, 06:59 AM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  Beijing

  Honda CBF190R
Judy, your Zed will always hold a special place in my heart. In earnest, I say that. Thank you so much! I couldn't have had a better weekend without the Zed and a tour of your amazing collection of motorcycles at the end of a fantastic ride! I'm coming back in August, by the way
Jun 2nd 2016, 09:22 AM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  '14 St3R, '05 DR650
Come 2020, that 2009 electric vehicle of yours will be illegal in Paris in an idiotic attempt to "curb traffic and pollution" problems.

That oughta do it.
Jun 2nd 2016, 09:40 AM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  bikes, all kinds.
I'm not surprised. Paris is overpopulated and owning/using a personal vehicle there is more of a hassle than convenience. Finding parking is impossible or very expensive. It's so expensive, some drivers prefer to rack up and pay parking tickets than pay for parking. It's often times cheaper.

Don't forget France is one of those "progressive" countries where any motorcycle more powerful than 100bhp is illegal and required to be restricted back to 100bph. Tampering with restriction equipment will put you in prison for 2 years and you'll get a 30k euro ticket on top.
Jun 2nd 2016, 10:16 AM   #13
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  Jan 2016
  space needle

and meanwhile the fucking forest fires, grass clearing fires, oilfield fires, lightning fires, idiot caused fires continue to rage on... and on... and on...
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