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Nov 14th 2018, 10:11 AM   #31
 Transported's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
Unless you are on the dirt with a dirt bike and protective gear, you should never crash. If you are crashing on the road, you need to change things drastically. Slower speed. Better riding buddies. More practice and self awareness. No cameras that often encourage you and others to ride unnaturally to make an impression.

A crash is an indication that things went wrong in a catastrophic (and often fatal) way.
Nov 14th 2018, 10:15 AM   #32
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  Jan 2016
  Kirkland, WA

  Daytona 675R
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Originally Posted by Transported
Unless you are on the dirt with a dirt bike and protective gear, you should never crash.
Do tell.



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Nov 14th 2018, 04:54 PM   #33
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  Jan 2016
  Kirkland

  2009 V-Star 1100 Custom
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Originally Posted by mgfchapin
Do tell.

That's not a crash, it's a game of Motorcycle leap frog!
Nov 15th 2018, 07:01 AM   #34
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
The professional road racing circuit is the exception that proves the rule.

People who make a million a year, or aspire to it, to win exclusive races are way over the line of safety. They know it and most of their short careers full of injuries prove it.

But for mere mortals (and I stress mortals) dirt is where you can push it to have fun and learn the limits without dire consequences. Pushing on the street beyond say 70% is unadvisable as your odds are not good.
Nov 15th 2018, 07:46 AM   #35
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  Jan 2016
  Northeast Olalla

  07 Guzzi
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Originally Posted by SalemCBR
Is that Washingtons training program? Here they teach you

Scan
Identify
Predict
Decide
Execute
The words are mine, based on how I facilitate the conversation around the MSF SEE (Search, Evaluate, Execute) when I am working with level II (above BRC) riders.

Either method will work if properly implemented.
Nov 15th 2018, 08:19 AM   #36
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  Jan 2016
  space needle

anyone remember the hwy101 road construction several years ago near lilliwaup when the HIGHWAY was a couple miles of gravel? Well I didn't read the signs figuring the flagman would be showing up shortly...then right around a corner is when the pavement suddenly stopped...butt nearly got permanently puckered shut! Dirt skills learned as a kid kept the shiny side up for me in that situation... Rider in vid should've released the brakes just before hitting the gravel, then ride it out, giving the rear brake extremely light taps..still would've needed to dodge the mc & car in front so may have gone down anyway...shit happens...
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Nov 15th 2018, 08:32 AM   #37
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  Mar 2016
  Bellingham

  '02 ZX6R
was this gravel he hit legal?
Nov 15th 2018, 08:46 AM   #38
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  Jan 2016
  Custer WA

  Aprilia Tuono 1100
Were you wearing an ICON helmet?
Nov 15th 2018, 11:04 AM   #39
 
  Apr 2016
  Bellingham

  K12RS, KTM 1290
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Originally Posted by Transported
Unless you are on the dirt with a dirt bike and protective gear, you should never crash. If you are crashing on the road, you need to change things drastically. Slower speed. Better riding buddies. More practice and self awareness. No cameras that often encourage you and others to ride unnaturally to make an impression.

A crash is an indication that things went wrong in a catastrophic (and often fatal) way.
Stupid comment
Nov 15th 2018, 11:21 AM   #40
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  Jan 2016
  Salem, Oregon

  Cbr600rr and cbr1000rr
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Originally Posted by Tripledij
Were you wearing an ICON helmet?
No sir.
Nov 15th 2018, 12:38 PM   #41
 
  Jan 2016
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Quote:
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Were you wearing an ICON helmet?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SalemCBR
No sir.
Good thing. Hoolie Road World reported that Icon helmets were banned on those roads.

Or something like that. The internet wouldn't lie about that.
Nov 15th 2018, 12:50 PM   #42
DGA
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  An Ape and a Husky
You crashed a bike on a straight away, gravel or not, without hitting anything...only input to the bike is your own. Chalk it up to inexperience and lack of skill for the condition/situation. I guess the take away can be: lucky you did not hit the guy in front of you, no one was really hurt, and be mindful of street signs. Maybe work on bringing your game up, but I for one don't mind watching these crashes you put up...it makes me chuckle cause I've probably done it and I can point at the screen and call you a dumb ass.
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Nov 15th 2018, 01:28 PM   #43
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  Jan 2016
  Here

What speed is that section signed for? By my reckoning, about 3 seconds elapsed from the point at which the sign is readable to where the pavement ends. And you started slowing down when you passed the sign, meaning that at 60 three seconds is the maximum time anyone's going to have to see it and prepare.

So yeah, what everyone else said about riding your own ride and knowing the road but that road needs better signage and a marked speed limit of 30mph or less well before that point.

Edit: More or less what craiger said earlier.

Edited by WarpShatner7 on Nov 15th 2018 at 01:34 PM
Nov 15th 2018, 04:17 PM   #44
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  Jan 2016
  Salem, Oregon

  Cbr600rr and cbr1000rr
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarpShatner7
What speed is that section signed for? By my reckoning, about 3 seconds elapsed from the point at which the sign is readable to where the pavement ends. And you started slowing down when you passed the sign, meaning that at 60 three seconds is the maximum time anyone's going to have to see it and prepare.

So yeah, what everyone else said about riding your own ride and knowing the road but that road needs better signage and a marked speed limit of 30mph or less well before that point.

Edit: More or less what craiger said earlier.
It's 55. I do wish the sign was more forward but I don't know that it changes much.
Nov 30th 2018, 09:08 AM   #45
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  Mar 2018
  Sherweed, OR

  KTM 1190R, Honda RC51
Hi Salem,

I wasn't there so of course I can comment on what you did wrong. What is it? You asked a bunch of asshats on the internet for their opinion.

Sorry about your crash and I hope you are OK.
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