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Nov 23rd 2018, 09:03 PM   #1
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UK declares war on moped thieves

NO MERCY

Met reveals range of tactics used against moped thieves - Metropolitan Police




Moped and motorcycle criminals will be targeted "at every opportunity", even when they ride dangerously, discard their helmets and disguise themselves, the head of the Met's Operation Venice Team has said.

Footage released today (Friday, 23 November) by the Met show the tactics that specially trained drivers are able to use to reduce the need for pursuits and prevent injury occurring to offenders and members of the public.

It is hoped that by demonstrating the full range of tactics that officers are prepared to use against moped and motorcycle criminals, potential offenders will think twice about their actions.

Moped crime can happen at any time of the day or night and some criminals have stolen up to 30 phones in an hour. Victims are often targeted as they come out of tube stations or at transport hubs. Thieves also snatch handbags, high value watches and other items.

Police use a range of tactics across London to tackle offenders. This includes DNA forensic tagging and the use of automatic tyre deflation devices.

As a result of intensive proactive policing and engagement, led by the Operation Venice Investigations Team, there have been reductions in moped crime across London.

Latest year-on-year figures for moped crime show that in January 2017 to October 2017 there were 19,455 offences across London compared to January 2018 to October 2018 when there were 12,419 offences (7,036 fewer offences) - a fall of 36 per cent.

Latest year-on-year figures for theft of mopeds show that in January 2017 to October 2017 there were 12,192 offences across London compared to January 2018 to October 2018 when there were 8,261 offences (3,931 fewer offences) - a reduction of 32 per cent.

Commander Amanda Pearson of Frontline Policing, said: "The Met is at the forefront of tackling moped and motorcycle crime and I am pleased to see that we have seen a reduction in offences. However, we are not complacent and we will continue to work tirelessly across London to maintain this downward trend.

"Operation Venice can call on all manner of tactics from an experienced investigation team to police helicopters to tackle and arrest offenders.

"There is a perception that if you remove your helmet or fail to stop for police when requested to do so we will not take any further course of action. This is untrue.

"The public quite rightly expects us to intervene to keep London safe. Our highly trained police drivers weigh up the risks and decide upon the most appropriate tactics in those circumstances.

"Offenders on mopeds and motorcycles who attempt to evade the police are making a choice that puts themselves and others at risk.

"So our message is clear: we can, we will and we do target those involved in moped and motorcycle crime at every opportunity."
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Nov 24th 2018, 11:43 AM   #2
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Ouch. But seems like an effective way to adapt to criminal behavior.
Nov 24th 2018, 12:53 PM   #3
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Ok just the thought of trying to run from cops on a zuma made me laugh.
Nov 24th 2018, 01:10 PM   #4
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Ok just the thought of trying to run from cops on a zuma made me laugh.
but if you were "running" through mid town Manhattan at 4 in the afternoon on a Thursday you'd get away easily.

see: any "cops vs dirt bikes" video on youtube.

i sort of like this one: never give up. never surrender!



or this:


Edited by Sentinel on Nov 24th 2018 at 01:13 PM
Nov 24th 2018, 01:49 PM   #5
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Video provided by the London Metropolitan Police dashcams. Given that UK police (with a few exceptions such as in Northern Ireland) still do not routinely carry firearms, you get the impression they must be really sick of moto criminals' shit:

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-engla...lice-in-london
Nov 24th 2018, 04:10 PM   #6
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how much training does it take to learn how to hit someone on a scooter with a car?
Nov 24th 2018, 07:35 PM   #7
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how much training does it take to learn how to hit someone on a scooter with a car?
Very little actually. The secret is to fall asleep in that part of Driver's Education where the instructor tells you to pay attention.
Nov 25th 2018, 12:07 PM   #8
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Taking down another bike can be difficult when you are on a bike. Hit them with your front wheel and you go down. Probably the best is ride up next to them and give them a hard shove so they lose control or at least lose their line and go off the road.

But a police person may be sued for showing such obvious aggression.
Nov 25th 2018, 07:27 PM   #9
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It might help put this in context to mention that one popular form of moto crime in the UK is to pull up alongside another scooter/motorcycle at a light and just before it turns green, the guy in back jumps off, knocks you over and rides off on your bike.
Nov 25th 2018, 10:02 PM   #10
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Moped - sure. But how are they going to catch up with a lightweight dualsport bike?
Nov 26th 2018, 08:32 AM   #11
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Moped - sure. But how are they going to catch up with a lightweight dualsport bike?
Sometimes they won't. But in urban areas there are severe limits on how fast you can go on a bike. Congestion, roundabouts, islands, cobbled surfaces, tram tracks and pedestrians everywhere. Put a motorcyclist under pressure to get away and one time in three he wipes out without any assist from your bumper.
Nov 26th 2018, 01:12 PM   #12
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I think we should just start castrating violent criminals, bound to ruduce the crime rate more so than police training videos.
Nov 26th 2018, 06:47 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Transported
Taking down another bike can be difficult when you are on a bike. ....
oh, there's a couple of ways.

Nov 26th 2018, 06:53 PM   #14
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Taking down another bike ...
so many more ways. ( 1:40 and 2:30 are awesome. )

Nov 27th 2018, 12:13 AM   #15
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In the 1970's I had a buddy that was a pretty good flat track racer. He was running second in the main and the guy in 1st kicked his front tire mid turn and dumped him. I happened to be in a position where I saw it but it seemed no one else that mattered did. Really sucked!
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