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May 14th 2017, 07:12 PM   #1
 coastrider's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon Coast

  Suzuki V-Strom 650 Adventure
Test ride - BMW R1200RT - Anyone looking for a V-Strom 650?

Stopped by the BMW dealer in Tigard, Oregon this Saturday. Took a ride on a BMW R1200RT. Very nice ride. Stupidly expensive. Probably a big mistake.

Any R1200 riders out there that want to encourage or discourage me?

If anyone knows of someone looking for a good deal on a 2012 Suzuki V-Strom 650 Adventure with ABS have a look at my Craigslist ad: https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/mcy/6131970749.html
May 15th 2017, 10:53 AM   #2
 WarpShatner7's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

  R1200ST, CB350
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Originally Posted by coastrider
Stopped by the BMW dealer in Tigard, Oregon this Saturday. Took a ride on a BMW R1200RT. Very nice ride. Stupidly expensive. Probably a big mistake.

Any R1200 riders out there that want to encourage or discourage me?
https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/mcy/6131970749.html
Hey, the heart wants what it wants, it's not an entirely rational thing. But if you haven't tested anything from Triumph, do yourself that favor before you pull the trigger. For my money Triumph these days has something that stands up to everything in the R and F series (at least) that BMW can field, for at most 4/5ths of the price, more smoothly, typically more grunt and a really amazing feel and character. Also, BMW's service schedule is pretty demanding and damned expensive if you don't do it yourself.
May 15th 2017, 11:07 AM   #3
 Rustydust's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Emmett Idaho

  2010 Honda Goldwing, 2007 Suzuki Burgman 650, 2005 Kawasaki KLR 650, 1995 Honda PC800
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Originally Posted by coastrider

Any R1200 riders out there that want to encourage or discourage me?
Nope. Not me. Not discourage anyway. Back in the late 1990's I took my first ride on a BMW R1100RT. My ride at that time was (still have it) a Honda PC800. Wow. The RT was everything the PC was and so very much more. Handled better, amazing brakes, power, and....cool!...it was a BMW. In 2000 I bought me a brand new one and kept it for 11 years. Never a regret. An amazing machine.

Edited by Rustydust on May 15th 2017 at 01:03 PM
May 15th 2017, 11:32 AM   #4
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon

  Suzuki
I think it's hilarious the way BMW is quietly backing away from all of the 'Telelever' 'Paralever' Airhead, Oilhead etc. Baloney. No one could figure out why the Automotive Division was killing it, while the Motorrad folks suffered along for so many years.

That is until the S1000RR came out, with essentially a 'Me Too' inline-4 with modern suspension.

AFAIK, BMW would gladly give up the Boxer motor if their Customers would let them. They've massaged it almost as far as possible with water-cooling and overhead cams. Maybe they need a Flat-4 Boxer next.

Anyway, I would look at the S1000XR. Tons of technology. If you need a Boxer, the R1200RS is nice, a lot sleeker and it has bags. If you want a R1200RT lookalike, that would be the Triumph Trophy, which most Dealers cannot give away for their life.

I've had a few BMW's when ABS elsewhere was non-existent, and Nikasil promised a motor that would last a lifetime, (and burn oil almost as long). I no longer drink the Munchen Kool-Aid.
May 15th 2017, 12:10 PM   #5
 RC65's Avatar
 
  Mar 2016
  Redmond, WA

  Triumph Thunderbird 1600
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Originally Posted by motoman
If you want a R1200RT lookalike, that would be the Triumph Trophy, which most Dealers cannot give away for their life.
I've heard the Trophy is going away and will not be replaced...sounds like Triumph is getting out of that sport tourer segment altogether (and is also getting rid of some of their cruiser lineup) to focus on their bread-and-butter Bonneville models, Street Triple, and so on.
May 15th 2017, 12:28 PM   #6
 WarpShatner7's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

  R1200ST, CB350
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Originally Posted by motoman
If you need a Boxer, the R1200RS is nice, a lot sleeker and it has bags. If you want a R1200RT lookalike, that would be the Triumph Trophy, which most Dealers cannot give away for their life.
I checked out an RS and was disappointed by the loss of telelever. I've gotten used to being immune to lateral forces by design and the near absence of brake dive.

Also that instrument cluster is bass-ackward: digital tach and analogue speedo? When it comes to speed all I need is a number, but for revs I want to see the response curve in real time and learn where the power is and isn't in visual terms. Their other bikes (and everyone else's) get it right so what are they thinking?
May 15th 2017, 12:41 PM   #7
 
  Jan 2016
  Grants Pass Oregon

Beautiful SV coast rider, should sell quickly. The RT is truly a great bike
and a enviable choice. When scouting around for a new bike it was on
my short list. Cant think of a bad thing to say about it. But i bought the
S1000XR, its lighter and faster but it is not as smooth as the RT.
Both bikes are very well balanced , the XR is not as smooth but both are
well built and easy to live with. However i found the XR to have a wild
side that the RT doesn't and that could be a good thing depending on
what your after. You can rail the RT but the XR is fast light and willing
to flick through any set of road you can find. Think of her as a Liberian
with a slutty side. She may not be the one for you but certainly worth
a look. 1st world decisions , we are a lucky bunch.
May 15th 2017, 02:32 PM   #8
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon

  Suzuki
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Originally Posted by WarpShatner7
I checked out an RS and was disappointed by the loss of telelever. I've gotten used to being immune to lateral forces by design and the near absence of brake dive.
Lateral forces? Brake dive? These things are near non-existent in a properly set up USD Fork. If it's good enough for Moto GP, it's good enough for me.

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