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May 14th 2017, 07:12 PM   #1
 coastrider's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon Coast

  2017 BMW R1200RT
Test ride - BMW R1200RT - Anyone looking for a V-Strom 650?

Stopped by the BMW dealer in Tigard, Oregon this Saturday. Took a ride on a BMW R1200RT. Very nice ride. Stupidly expensive. Probably a big mistake.

Any R1200 riders out there that want to encourage or discourage me?

If anyone knows of someone looking for a good deal on a 2012 Suzuki V-Strom 650 Adventure with ABS have a look at my Craigslist ad: https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/mcy/6131970749.html
May 15th 2017, 10:53 AM   #2
 WarpShatner7's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

  R1200ST, CB350
Quote:
Originally Posted by coastrider
Stopped by the BMW dealer in Tigard, Oregon this Saturday. Took a ride on a BMW R1200RT. Very nice ride. Stupidly expensive. Probably a big mistake.

Any R1200 riders out there that want to encourage or discourage me?
https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/mcy/6131970749.html
Hey, the heart wants what it wants, it's not an entirely rational thing. But if you haven't tested anything from Triumph, do yourself that favor before you pull the trigger. For my money Triumph these days has something that stands up to everything in the R and F series (at least) that BMW can field, for at most 4/5ths of the price, more smoothly, typically more grunt and a really amazing feel and character. Also, BMW's service schedule is pretty demanding and damned expensive if you don't do it yourself.
May 15th 2017, 11:07 AM   #3
 Rustydust's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Emmett Idaho

  2010 Honda Goldwing, 2007 Suzuki Burgman 650, 2005 Kawasaki KLR 650, 1995 Honda PC800
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Originally Posted by coastrider

Any R1200 riders out there that want to encourage or discourage me?
Nope. Not me. Not discourage anyway. Back in the late 1990's I took my first ride on a BMW R1100RT. My ride at that time was (still have it) a Honda PC800. Wow. The RT was everything the PC was and so very much more. Handled better, amazing brakes, power, and....cool!...it was a BMW. In 2000 I bought me a brand new one and kept it for 11 years. Never a regret. An amazing machine.

Edited by Rustydust on May 15th 2017 at 01:03 PM
May 15th 2017, 11:32 AM   #4
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon

  Suzuki
I think it's hilarious the way BMW is quietly backing away from all of the 'Telelever' 'Paralever' Airhead, Oilhead etc. Baloney. No one could figure out why the Automotive Division was killing it, while the Motorrad folks suffered along for so many years.

That is until the S1000RR came out, with essentially a 'Me Too' inline-4 with modern suspension.

AFAIK, BMW would gladly give up the Boxer motor if their Customers would let them. They've massaged it almost as far as possible with water-cooling and overhead cams. Maybe they need a Flat-4 Boxer next.

Anyway, I would look at the S1000XR. Tons of technology. If you need a Boxer, the R1200RS is nice, a lot sleeker and it has bags. If you want a R1200RT lookalike, that would be the Triumph Trophy, which most Dealers cannot give away for their life.

I've had a few BMW's when ABS elsewhere was non-existent, and Nikasil promised a motor that would last a lifetime, (and burn oil almost as long). I no longer drink the Munchen Kool-Aid.
May 15th 2017, 12:10 PM   #5
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  Mar 2016
  Redmond, WA

  Triumph Thunderbird 1600
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Originally Posted by motoman
If you want a R1200RT lookalike, that would be the Triumph Trophy, which most Dealers cannot give away for their life.
I've heard the Trophy is going away and will not be replaced...sounds like Triumph is getting out of that sport tourer segment altogether (and is also getting rid of some of their cruiser lineup) to focus on their bread-and-butter Bonneville models, Street Triple, and so on.
May 15th 2017, 12:28 PM   #6
 WarpShatner7's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

  R1200ST, CB350
Quote:
Originally Posted by motoman
If you need a Boxer, the R1200RS is nice, a lot sleeker and it has bags. If you want a R1200RT lookalike, that would be the Triumph Trophy, which most Dealers cannot give away for their life.
I checked out an RS and was disappointed by the loss of telelever. I've gotten used to being immune to lateral forces by design and the near absence of brake dive.

Also that instrument cluster is bass-ackward: digital tach and analogue speedo? When it comes to speed all I need is a number, but for revs I want to see the response curve in real time and learn where the power is and isn't in visual terms. Their other bikes (and everyone else's) get it right so what are they thinking?
May 15th 2017, 12:41 PM   #7
 
  Jan 2016
  Grants Pass Oregon

Beautiful SV coast rider, should sell quickly. The RT is truly a great bike
and a enviable choice. When scouting around for a new bike it was on
my short list. Cant think of a bad thing to say about it. But i bought the
S1000XR, its lighter and faster but it is not as smooth as the RT.
Both bikes are very well balanced , the XR is not as smooth but both are
well built and easy to live with. However i found the XR to have a wild
side that the RT doesn't and that could be a good thing depending on
what your after. You can rail the RT but the XR is fast light and willing
to flick through any set of road you can find. Think of her as a Liberian
with a slutty side. She may not be the one for you but certainly worth
a look. 1st world decisions , we are a lucky bunch.
May 15th 2017, 02:32 PM   #8
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon

  Suzuki
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarpShatner7
I checked out an RS and was disappointed by the loss of telelever. I've gotten used to being immune to lateral forces by design and the near absence of brake dive.
Lateral forces? Brake dive? These things are near non-existent in a properly set up USD Fork. If it's good enough for Moto GP, it's good enough for me.

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Jun 7th 2017, 11:27 AM   #9
 SpinCycle's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Eugene

I have a 2012 RT. Last year I rode to Denver to visit my daughter and just ride around the Rocky mountains and just see the country. On last Friday I went to Crescent City, Ca for a day ride through the Redwood Forest. I owned a Concourse 14 and did some trips on it as well, not even close to the RT in comfort or long range ability of the BMW. The Kawasaki is fast but when your first stop for the night is Salt Lake City the BMW stomps pretty much everything in it's class but it does cost some dollars. My RT is ~525lbs and only 15hp down on the new water cooler which is 100lbs heavier. Look for a low mileage R1200RT oil cooler...they can be had for budget dollars.
Jun 7th 2017, 02:03 PM   #10
 coastrider's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon Coast

  2017 BMW R1200RT
I went with a 2017 R1200RT. Rode it for two days and got enough miles on it to allow the initial service to be done. Shop is now adding the engine guards, LED aux lights and top case brake light.

I really like this bike. Very comfortable and doesn't seem to compromise in the corners when compared to the V-Strom even though a bit more weight. I expect it will make the longer rides much nicer.

Will get it back end of next week. Photo will show up sometime after that.
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Jun 14th 2017, 01:09 PM   #11
 SpinCycle's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Eugene

Did you buy it in Eugene? I may have seen it..
Jun 14th 2017, 03:03 PM   #12
 coastrider's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon Coast

  2017 BMW R1200RT
Bought it through BMW Motorcycles of Western Oregon at their Tigard location. The bike actually did get shipped up from their Eugene store. I wanted one in white and they had that color on the floor there. Mine has only been ridden as far south as Salem so far. Now back at the dealer having engine guards and LED lights added.

Picking it up once again this Saturday and riding for a few days with longer trips planned for the summer. I will be posting a photo of it sometime next week. If you show up in Baker City for the early September ride you will see it there.
Jun 14th 2017, 04:48 PM   #13
 Rainman's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Bot Hell, WA

  Honda RC51, BMW S1000RR, BMW R1200RT, Suzuki DR650SE
If you have the funds I would enthusiastically recommend the water-cooled BMW R1200RT ('14-'17). It is an excellent touring bike.

I bought a '16 R1200RT last February and then took 61 days to travel 15,800+ miles across the country and back on it. It was flawless and very comfortable, with plenty of oomph, great brakes, good mileage, and damn good electronics.

And, as my salesman/friend told me, it is the most "nimble" bike in the current BMW lineup other than the inline-4 S1000 family.

Go for it, you won't be sorry.





I have a long trip report in progress. I'll let you all know some day.

Edited by Rainman on Jun 14th 2017 at 06:44 PM
Jun 15th 2017, 07:59 AM   #14
 HalcyonSon's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Renton

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainman
If you have the funds I would enthusiastically recommend the water-cooled BMW R1200RT ('14-'17). It is an excellent touring bike.

I bought a '16 R1200RT last February and then took 61 days to travel 15,800+ miles across the country and back on it. It was flawless and very comfortable, with plenty of oomph, great brakes, good mileage, and damn good electronics.

And, as my salesman/friend told me, it is the most "nimble" bike in the current BMW lineup other than the inline-4 S1000 family.

Go for it, you won't be sorry.

I have a long trip report in progress. I'll let you all know some day.
I'm jealous of that time to ride.

But dude, my monitor isn't big enough!
Jun 15th 2017, 09:32 AM   #15
 Rainman's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Bot Hell, WA

  Honda RC51, BMW S1000RR, BMW R1200RT, Suzuki DR650SE
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Originally Posted by HalcyonSon
I'm jealous of that time to ride.

But dude, my monitor isn't big enough!
Sorry about that. I should obviously have resized the pics before posting.
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