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Aug 29th 2017, 07:33 PM   #1
 Sentinel's Avatar
 
  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
Talk me out of a Ducati

I have a 2015 Connie.
Like to have something a lot less serious as a counterpoint.
The C14 is a bit of a commitment to ride. That makes sense?
It's yuge.
I love it, but it's yuge.
WHy should I run from this Duc?

Aug 29th 2017, 07:45 PM   #2
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  Feb 2016
  Seattle

I have a 2012 Hyper and I'll eventually upgrade to the current generation with the 959 or whatever engine they put in them now. Best combination of sports bike and tourer I have ridden so far. MV makes a bike I've been ogling though, the Super Veloce. But I digress, with a Hypermotard you can go out and ride it hard without dramatically exceeding the speed limits. They can even be fun at track days.

It's not a slow bike, especially the newer ones with the 4-valve liquid cooked engines. But the chassis, brakes, and suspension are better than the engine. So in a strange way maybe it is kind of like the Mazda Miata of the lineup. You can throw it around some twisties with confidence and have a great time.

I've taken mine up to Calgary and down to Labuan Seca and except for burning through the stock tires, with just a backpack it's not bad at soaking up some miles.
Aug 29th 2017, 09:17 PM   #3
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon

  2017 Kaw Ninja 1000 ABS (Z1000SX)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentinel
I have a 2015 Connie.
Like to have something a lot less serious as a counterpoint.
The C14 is a bit of a commitment to ride. That makes sense?
It's yuge.
I love it, but it's yuge.
WHy should I run from this Duc?

Just trade it in for a ZX14R, get some Helibars or other risers and have the best of all Worlds.

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Aug 29th 2017, 09:28 PM   #4
 Motorbiker's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Silverdale, WA

  1987 FZR 1000
No good reason I can think of.
Aug 29th 2017, 11:09 PM   #5
 Pavement Tested's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Bremerton

  '12 Concours14, '08 GSX1300R, '06 GSX-R 750
Is the Starbucks premium membership from the PO transferable with that thing? You'll also need to make sure to order your matching Ducati jacket, gloves and helmet.
Aug 29th 2017, 11:15 PM   #6
 Willow's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Silverdale, WA

  848evo, DRZ400SM, XR100
Man............I hate Ducati's
Aug 30th 2017, 12:19 AM   #7
 Pavement Tested's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Bremerton

  '12 Concours14, '08 GSX1300R, '06 GSX-R 750
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Originally Posted by Willow
Man............I hate Ducati's
Aug 30th 2017, 01:50 AM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Triumph Street Twin
I found Hypers a bit too twitchy and spazzy for my taste, liked Monster much better. But, some people swear by it. Nobody should live their life without a Ducati if they can help it.
Aug 30th 2017, 05:55 AM   #9
 
  Jan 2016
  Lynnwood WA

  2007 Yamaha FZ6, 2008 Aprilia Tuono & 2009 Yamaha WR250R
Aug 30th 2017, 06:11 AM   #10
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
See...that's the thing. Never had a Duc. Don't want to get to know the service manager on a firsts name basis.

Anyone with that 821 motor can talk about actual reliability?

I know I can live with the performance as long as it always runs when I hit the red button.

They say the top end maintenance interval is now something like 15000 miles or something.

What is going to die on me with this bike?

My other option is like an FZ09 or (if I can find one) maybe a 990 Superduke.

Seems like the Duc is the coolest of the bunch. I just worry about it being so ...Italian.
Aug 30th 2017, 06:53 AM   #11
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
i think this guy has talked me out of it....

Aug 30th 2017, 10:02 AM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  all of them
The air-cooled 2008-2012 Hypermotard is one of my all time favorite streetbikes. I can't think of any new current steetbike I'd rather ride. The 2013 and newer liquid cooled model, well, not so much.

A couple years back, I had in stock a nearly new liquid cooled version. Less than 1k miles. New condition in every way after being traded into the Lexus store by the 1st owner. Paradox206 bought it and traded in his nice GSXR.

His experience was less than pleasant. The wretched thing was still under warranty so that helped ease the pain. I don't recall the specific issues other than to say they were numerous.

None of the new gen Ducati models feel like a Ducati to me. Riding them, working on them, looking at them, etc. Starting with the 848/1098 series that came out 10 years ago.... ever since I've been meh.
Aug 30th 2017, 10:39 AM   #13
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  Feb 2016
  Seattle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Label Moto
The air-cooled 2008-2012 Hypermotard is one of my all time favorite streetbikes. I can't think of any new current steetbike I'd rather ride. The 2013 and newer liquid cooled model, well, not so much.

A couple years back, I had in stock a nearly new liquid cooled version. Less than 1k miles. New condition in every way after being traded into the Lexus store by the 1st owner. Paradox206 bought it and traded in his nice GSXR.

His experience was less than pleasant. The wretched thing was still under warranty so that helped ease the pain. I don't recall the specific issues other than to say they were numerous.

None of the new gen Ducati models feel like a Ducati to me. Riding them, working on them, looking at them, etc. Starting with the 848/1098 series that came out 10 years ago.... ever since I've been meh.
Well we are going to have to agree to disagree about the 848/1098, but it sounds like I'll be keeping my Hyper a while longer...
Aug 30th 2017, 11:02 AM   #14
bcj
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  Jan 2016
  teh rock

  K1200RS SV650
I had much the same dilemma after i moved up to my K12RS. Got all the electric motor like torque and the hardbags.
But, yeah. Yuge. Not genuinely applicable for all occasions.

I supplemented mine with a naked SV650. It seems to fill in all the gaps for my purposes.
It's got the L-twin sound and low end torque, but it keeps going without much extra supervision or dealer supplementation.
I use it for quick trips to the jiffy-mart or up Windy ridge and around Rainier and don't have to worry if it will get me back or not.
I did however get the seat fitted.

"But this one goes to 11!" (k rpm)

Edited by bcj on Aug 30th 2017 at 11:04 AM
Aug 30th 2017, 12:12 PM   #15
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  Jan 2016
  Des Moines

  M1200s, VFR800 & GSXR750
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Label Moto
The air-cooled 2008-2012 Hypermotard is one of my all time favorite streetbikes. I can't think of any new current steetbike I'd rather ride. The 2013 and newer liquid cooled model, well, not so much.

A couple years back, I had in stock a nearly new liquid cooled version. Less than 1k miles. New condition in every way after being traded into the Lexus store by the 1st owner. Paradox206 bought it and traded in his nice GSXR.

His experience was less than pleasant. The wretched thing was still under warranty so that helped ease the pain. I don't recall the specific issues other than to say they were numerous.

None of the new gen Ducati models feel like a Ducati to me. Riding them, working on them, looking at them, etc. Starting with the 848/1098 series that came out 10 years ago.... ever since I've been meh.

Ah, my 821 Hyper. You know, I loved that bike until it had its big failure. In my situation, the front coil sent a surge through the system and took out the dash, while some were unlucky and it took out the dash and the ECU. I was actually 2 months out of warranty, but Ducati ate the price of the dash/coils while I had to pay for labor.

I ended up trading it in immediately after it was fixed, since I had read about owners that had it happen more than once. Within the next year or so they put out a fix for it (something in-line to block potential surges). I think parts/labor for that issue was between $2-4k depending on what blew up. Then there's the starter issues I've heard about which I don't believe have been addressed (they're on the weak side and tend to die early). I think the other issues (something with the throttle comes to mind) has been also fixed with TBSs.

I've been follow the Hyper Ducati.ms forum even though I haven't owned a Hyper in two years and it seems like the 939 isn't giving people as many problems as the 821. Personally, I hope to buy a first gen 1100s once I pay off my Monster. I really miss riding a Hyper.

Edited by paradox206 on Aug 30th 2017 at 02:31 PM
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