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Oct 9th 2019, 04:20 AM   #1
 MMcN49's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Small Island Surrounded by Puget Sound

  07 Buell XB12STT, (Two) 12 Suzuki DR650 SE 72BMWR75/5 KIA @ 243K
Suzuki GSX S-1000

Sat on one of these and liked it. Being older Clip On's are out but the stock bars feel about right.

Interested in hearing comments on this bike, (good, bad or indifferent) all are welcome. Particularly interested in knowing what is involved in doing a Valve Adjustment.
Oct 9th 2019, 05:18 AM   #2
 MV Man's Avatar
 
  Sep 2019
  Portlandia

  MV Agusta F3 800
Would you intend to be doing track days and/or road racing with it?
Oct 9th 2019, 09:52 AM   #3
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon

  2018 Kaw Ninja H2 SX SE
Check out the Kaw Ninja 1000..

Upright bars, great power, comfort, OEM bags available etc.

Kawasaki seems to be doing everything right these days..
Oct 9th 2019, 10:46 AM   #4
 
  Mar 2016
  Columbia River Gorge

  Ninja 1000
I agree!

And not just because I am selling my 2012 Ninja 1000. See recently posted ad in classifieds.

Better than new condition. Just tuned-up, new fluids, new tires and some other TLC.




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Oct 9th 2019, 10:47 AM   #5
 
  Mar 2016
  Columbia River Gorge

  Ninja 1000
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Originally Posted by Bugaboo
I agree!

And not just because I am selling my 2012 Ninja 1000. See recently posted ad in classifieds.

Better than new condition. Just tuned-up, new fluids, new tires and some other TLC.




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2011. My bad.


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Oct 9th 2019, 12:57 PM   #6
 MMcN49's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Small Island Surrounded by Puget Sound

  07 Buell XB12STT, (Two) 12 Suzuki DR650 SE 72BMWR75/5 KIA @ 243K
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Originally Posted by MV Man
Would you intend to be doing track days and/or road racing with it?
No to both, just fun riding in the twisty's.
Oct 9th 2019, 01:01 PM   #7
 MMcN49's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Small Island Surrounded by Puget Sound

  07 Buell XB12STT, (Two) 12 Suzuki DR650 SE 72BMWR75/5 KIA @ 243K
Quote:
Originally Posted by motoman
Check out the Kaw Ninja 1000..

Upright bars, great power, comfort, OEM bags available etc.

Kawasaki seems to be doing everything right these days..
I will.

Curious about valve adjustments on both bikes. Are they bucket & shim? Does valve adjustment require cam removal?
Oct 9th 2019, 01:32 PM   #8
 
  Mar 2016
  Columbia River Gorge

  Ninja 1000
I do not know.

Other than oil changes and easy stuff that even a dummy like me can do, I always took it to CycleTune for all maintenance and/or repair.
Oct 9th 2019, 01:58 PM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Muklilteo, WA

  Suzuki DL1000, Honda XR650R, KTM 250 XC-W
Quote:
Originally Posted by MMcN49
I will.

Curious about valve adjustments on both bikes. Are they bucket & shim? Does valve adjustment require cam removal?
Yes, and yes, motor is based on 2008 GSXR1000.
Oct 9th 2019, 03:45 PM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  The Rider's Seat

I'll 2nd Pete .

I have no personal experience doing the valves on a GSX S-1000 (S-1K), but I have done several on the Ninja 1000 (N1K). Looking on Suzuki's parts fiche for the S-1K, the design is indeed similar to the N1K's: both use a Shim-under-bucket design.

GSX S-1000 Valve diagram. (Part #11 is the shim)


Ninja 1000 Valve Diagram. (Part #92180 is the shim)


Between my '12 and '17 N1K's, I've done a total of 4 valve checks. On both bikes I've only had to make two adjustments (yes, you have to pull the cams), and that was at the first check (15,000 miles). In both cases, one or two valves were out of spec, and several were on the tight side (though still in spec). Since I had to pull the cams, I adjusted all the valves to be on the looser side of the valve "spec" range. At subsequent checks (on the '12) at 30K and 45K miles, I found that the intakes only tightened by about .01 mm at the most, and the exhausts would tighten by about .02 at the most. I sold my '12 at 52K, and when the new owner did the check at 60K, he found one of the intake shims at the lowest "in-spec" tolerance, but since it was still in-spec, he chose to wait until it (or another) is out of spec before making an adjustment. I haven't reached 30K on my '17 yet, but I'm expecting to see similar wear trends.
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Edited by FeralRdr on Oct 9th 2019 at 03:49 PM
Oct 12th 2019, 07:32 AM   #11
 
  Dec 2017
  Beaverton, Oregon

  2018 Suzuki GSXS1000F
I got a 2018 GSXS1000F (the faired one) in July and I've really liked it so far. I only have 2100 miles on it so I don't know much about the valve adjustment (I'll take it somewhere for that too). It's comfortable and the motor and brakes are excellent. It's two biggest problems is are snatchy throttle and cheap suspension (mostly the rear shock). For me, this makes riding it less enjoyable and handling suffers because of it. It's otherwise a fun bike and I'll keep it for a long time but when I have $ saved up I will fix those two things. My $0.02.
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Oct 12th 2019, 12:45 PM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  Tri-Cities, dry side of Washington

  Kawasaki C-14
A friend and I both test rode one, and both liked it! Snatchy throttle, yes,
but think there's an aftermarket flash that cures it, if you can't get used to it.

I had 2005 GSXR1000 for 25,000 miles, so this one was very familiar.
If you want an eye turning affordable sport bike, you ought to get it.

None of my 3 Suzuki's ever left me at the side of the road. Fun and reliable.

EDIT: this is the blue and white GSX-s100F that i tested:

Edited by uhoh on Oct 12th 2019 at 12:51 PM
Oct 13th 2019, 09:37 AM   #13
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon

  2018 Kaw Ninja H2 SX SE
Alternate approach:

Pick up a used GSXR-1000, 09-13?
Install Helibars
Install -1 front sprocket
Install Akro Exhaust
ECU Flash.

Now you have the real deal for less money, but comfortable with great low and midrange. And still have more power overall!

Kaw, Yam, Hon, Suz all make street friendly versions of their liter bikes. So you could do this with any of them.

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