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Dec 12th 2018, 05:23 AM   #1
 tod701's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Stanwood

SB5007 - helmet legislation

Senate Bill SB5007 has been prefiled by Senator Rolfes.

It would remove the requirement for people over the age of 21 to wear helmets while riding a motorcycle on the street.

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Dec 12th 2018, 05:46 AM   #2
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It's a pilot project with a sunset clause and data capture requirements.
Dec 12th 2018, 05:55 AM   #3
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  Jun 2018
  LaCenter Washington

  83 Suzuki GS 1100E
Sb5007

Also looks like it will require insurance for motorcycles.
Dec 12th 2018, 06:02 AM   #4
 
  Mar 2018
  Gig Harbor

  2008 BMW R1200GS Adventure
Just wear a fucking helmet.
Dec 12th 2018, 03:49 PM   #5
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
"helmets save lives" and "mind your own business" carry equivalent weight, IMO.

actually, to me, very, very few guys are gonna ride bare-headed, even if its legal. so it's niche law.

on the other hand, if i had a magic button i could push and add one line of code to every motorcyclists brain software it would be - "you have legs. you are gonna want those, going forward. you might want to rethink your jeans and sneakers program."
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Dec 12th 2018, 04:17 PM   #6
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  Jan 2016
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Originally Posted by Sentinel
"helmets save lives" and "mind your own business" carry equivalent weight, IMO.

actually, to me, very, very few guys are gonna ride bare-headed, even if its legal. so it's niche law.

on the other hand, if i had a magic button i could push and add one line of code to every motorcyclists brain software it would be - "you have legs. you are gonna want those, going forward. you might want to rethink your jeans and sneakers program."
What about those that let the passenger wear shorts and flip-flops?
Dec 12th 2018, 04:43 PM   #7
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  milwaukie oregon

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Finally we start down the road to bring back “natural selection” cause we need it bad!
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Dec 12th 2018, 06:03 PM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Stanwood

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riki5156
Also looks like it will require insurance for motorcycles.
Nope, that lives over in House Bill HB1014.

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Dec 12th 2018, 06:43 PM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Seabeck

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Riki5156
Also looks like it will require insurance for motorcycles.
Those who ride ride without either are asking for trouble in one form or another.

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Originally Posted by Didley
Just wear a fucking helmet.
It's a difficult concept...
Dec 12th 2018, 08:27 PM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  Garden Home

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maybe we could get a senator to sponsor a Loud Pipes bill and we can all have loud pipes and save lives...a pilot program to gather information...this rather than a bill that will obviously take lives...
Dec 12th 2018, 08:39 PM   #11
 
  Jan 2016
  Gig Harbor

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I'm fine with anyone who is of the age considered to be an adult riding without a helmet...so long as they obtain a bond ensuring that they will pay cash for any medical bill for a head injury received while riding a motorcycle. I have no problem doing my part to subsidize medical care and medical insurance for those who need it, but decline to do so for someone who willfully chooses to take the completely unreasonable risk of riding without a helmet. Idiots who don't take reasonable safety precautions, and subsequently incur a $500,000 medical bill for treatment of a traumatic brain injury, needlessly drive up insurance rates and treatment costs for everyone else in society. If they want to take a stupid risk, fine...they just need to accept total responsibility for the consequences.
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Dec 13th 2018, 06:00 AM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

There was a time (in the 80's?) Washington did not require a helmet and I rode without one occasionally. Kind of fun but not the best idea. There was a very hot summer I rode with a tank top, shorts and sandals a couple times too... Ah yes. Young and dumb.
Kind of depends on how you ride though. If you are zipping around cars and going 20 mph faster than everyone around you then wear LOTS of gear. It is when, not if, you will need it. Your chances of having an accident go way up if you are hotfootin' it.
Dec 13th 2018, 10:07 AM   #13
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  Jan 2016
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It's where the term "donorcycle" comes from.

When I lived in a state without a helmet law, in the kind of university neighborhood where everything you needed was within ten blocks, there were no main drags and stop signs everywhere, I often rode without, in just my jeans, t-shirt and Doc Martens. When a hospital physician of my acquaintance noticed this she just asked me if I'd checked the "organ donor" box on my license. But we're talking at best skateboard speeds and no real traffic there. If I were leaving the neighborhood it was ATG every time.

Here where there's a helmet law it really bothers me to see all the scooters ridden by people who somehow don't get that 35 MPH in heavily trafficked streets is the same whether you're on a literbike or a Vespa: two out of three just wear street clothes, plain shoes and no gloves in summer. I have a vivid imagination and I particularly cringe at 20-ish girls in nothing but their little summer dresses and an incongruous, huge-looking bobblehead helmet on top.
Dec 13th 2018, 10:50 AM   #14
 
  Mar 2018
  Gig Harbor

  2008 BMW R1200GS Adventure
See one friend without a helmet have a minor spill that still cracks their skull and you’ll never go without again.

As far as “mind your business”, I’d rather my kids never have to see what human brains look like on the pavement. And there’s the relevant argument that cleanup, tax-payer funded medical costs (uninsured), and overall impact to traffic is much greater when a rider goes down without a helmet.
Dec 13th 2018, 11:19 AM   #15
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actually, to me, very, very few guys are gonna ride bare-headed, even if its legal. so it's niche law.
Visit some other states, you are wrong.
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