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Apr 19th 2017, 12:18 PM   #1
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Sb 5378

sigh...we wait again

Washington State Legislature - SB 5378 - 2017-18
Modifying the operation of motorcycles on roadways laned for traffic.
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Dear Jared,

Thank you for your message regarding SB 5378. As you said, this bill would authorize a two year pilot program where motorcyclists would have the ability to drive in between lanes in slow or stopped traffic.

SB 5378 did not receive a hearing in the House Transportation Committee in time for the required deadline, and therefore it will not be considered for passage this session. Since it did not come to the House floor for a vote, I did not have the opportunity to weigh in on the bill.

I appreciate hearing from you.

Best regards,

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Representative Ruth Kagi
Chair, Early Learning and Human Services
32nd Legislative District
Ruth.Kagi@leg.wa.gov
Apr 19th 2017, 12:24 PM   #2
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  Apr 2016
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In other words...

Yeah, We know.... But not anytime soon guys... we're just not mature enough for that yet..
Apr 19th 2017, 12:34 PM   #3
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  Apr 2016
  Burien

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Remarkably similar to the response I got.
Apr 19th 2017, 12:52 PM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  Pullman, WA

  '73 CB350F, '86 VFR750F, '00 Aprilia RS250, '04 Aprilia RSV1000 R Factory(x2), '07 Star 1100 Classic
Same here, except he mentioned Rep. Clibborn by name as the hold-up. Specifically calling out her disapproval of the bill as the reason it didn't make it through the Transportation committee.

Not cool.
Apr 20th 2017, 07:57 AM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Northeast Olalla

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Originally Posted by jared p
sigh...we wait again

Washington State Legislature - SB 5378 - 2017-18
Modifying the operation of motorcycles on roadways laned for traffic.
And in the meantime, we meet with our legislators in district (during the interim) and respectfully and factually make our case. Put a face on the issue, become well known and respected by your representatives in Olympia, and win them over one by one.

This issue will progress, but at a glacial pace, especially at first, but we have to keep chugging away. Remember, it took over a decade just to get legislative relief for us at traffic signals that would not detect us.
Apr 20th 2017, 09:28 AM   #6
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  Jan 2017
  Olympia, WA

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According to my sources, as long as Clibborn is leading the show "Lane Splitting" will never be allowed to come to the floor for a vote. Not this year, not next year, not ever!

This is what people within that circle says.
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Apr 20th 2017, 12:27 PM   #7
 
  Jan 2016
  Renton

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Time to vote her out of Olympia and let her return to her cushy digs on Mercer Island.

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Apr 20th 2017, 02:17 PM   #8
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  Jan 2016
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Classic Clibborn... she alone can effectively "veto" legislation that she doesn't like by refusing a hearing. Unfortunately I don't have 20 years of my life to waste waiting for this kind of stuff.
Apr 20th 2017, 05:09 PM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Silverdale, WA

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Time to vote her out of Olympia and let her return to her cushy digs on Mercer Island.

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I'm thinking the chair get's appointed, not voted in..........

But she's gotta go!
Apr 20th 2017, 06:45 PM   #10
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  Apr 2016
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So. Lets get some motorcyclists elected to offices... Might help a bit?
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Apr 20th 2017, 08:35 PM   #11
 
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  Renton

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The chair gets appointed, but only as long as she remains an elected rep in her district. If she's up for reelection and doesn't keep office, she loses her chair position too, I think. We need some Mercer Island riders to oust her, if she's not willing to listen to her constituents.

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Apr 21st 2017, 05:19 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by Dubnut
So. Lets get some motorcyclists elected to offices... Might help a bit?
True, but to do that you have to get engaged in the process on the local level and find some electable motorcyclists.

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Originally Posted by fiveohford
The chair gets appointed, but only as long as she remains an elected rep in her district. If she's up for reelection and doesn't keep office, she loses her chair position too, I think. We need some Mercer Island riders to oust her, if she's not willing to listen to her constituents.

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That is done by finding a candidate that more appealing to the majority of the voters in the 41st and can run a campaign good enough to unseat one of the most influential people in the state.

I'm not saying that it is impossible, merely pointing out the difficulties involved.
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Apr 21st 2017, 12:49 PM   #13
 
  Jan 2016
  Renton

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That is done by finding a candidate that more appealing to the majority of the voters in the 41st and can run a campaign good enough to unseat one of the most influential people in the state.

I'm not saying that it is impossible, merely pointing out the difficulties involved.
Agreed, it is a tough hill to climb. Unfortunately, when certain politicians won't even entertain listening to their constituents, how else do you get forward motion on an issue? They either have to leave their seat voluntarily, or someone more friendly to our position needs to run against them to get them out as representative, but like you imply is easier said than done.
Is there any path going forward as long as Clibborn remains chair of the transportation committee or will we keep trying only to be denied a hearing by the transportation committee? Will anyone ever be able to get through to her? Maybe if she weren't in the chair position, the filtering bill wouldn't have needed to be neutered so badly the last couple of attempts, and we might be legally filtering today.



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Apr 21st 2017, 01:57 PM   #14
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We work our representatives during interim, becoming the dace of the issue as well as their "go to" person when it comes to motorcycle issues. We continue the process next session, taking the time off to visit Olympia during the legislative session. That slowly gets us more support in both the house and senate, and eventually the legislation gains more traction.

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Apr 24th 2017, 05:48 PM   #15
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  Pullman, WA

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Wait...what is this???

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Apr 23 By resolution, returned to Senate Rules Committee for third reading.
IN THE SENATE

Placed on Rules Green Sheet.
2017 1ST SPECIAL SESSION

Apr 24 By resolution, reintroduced and retained in present status.
Link to page: Washington State Legislature
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