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Oct 19th 2019, 02:28 PM   #16
 Geoff4RFC's Avatar
 
  Sep 2019
  Ruston

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Originally Posted by cgt1229
Just a spectator, witnessing some fine racing at Westwood, back in the early 80's.

More than "half way there" at 54. Semi fossilized.
Right on!! Yep, I've got 5 years on you!

I did some races at "Wet"wood…..had a hellacious get off out of the hairpin back in '90. Had that crash on video.

The highside was so violent that it ripped the entire upper right off the bike. The upper landed on the track in the upright position and facing back down to the hairpin from whenst I came. Later some of my fellow Americans told me that as they came through the hairpin, they thought I was coming down the wrong way

Meanwhile I was thrown clear of the corner and after getting the wind completely knocked out of me, I only sustained a sprained back.

A Canadian by stander told me how lucky I was as only the week before, American Joe Pittman had the same crash but fractured two or three ribs and punctured a lung.....
Oct 22nd 2019, 06:51 AM   #17
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  Jan 2016
  Beijing

  Honda CBF190R and Shineray X6
Roundabouts are quite common where I live, but almost no one uses them "properly." But that is also a safety feature of roundabouts. Stay with me! When drivers are confused about what to do, they tend to slow down and pay more attention. So, the confusion of roundabouts and who has right of way lends itself to overall safer driving.
Oct 22nd 2019, 09:28 AM   #18
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  Jan 2016
  The Rider's Seat

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Originally Posted by galenernest
Roundabouts are quite common where I live, but almost no one uses them "properly." But that is also a safety feature of roundabouts. Stay with me! When drivers are confused about what to do, they tend to slow down and pay more attention. So, the confusion of roundabouts and who has right of way lends itself to overall safer driving.
That's our Galen. Surviving the madness of the Chinese Roundabout, and seeing the bright side of life.
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Oct 22nd 2019, 09:28 AM   #19
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  Feb 2016
  Bellingham, WA

  Yamaha FZ-07
I am not sure if it's safer when the guy in front of you decide to stop unexpectedly to let someone enter the roundabout. Pedestrians also mess it up as vehicles have to stop on the roundabout to let them cross.
Oct 22nd 2019, 01:44 PM   #20
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  Jan 2016
  Muklilteo, WA

  Suzuki DL1000, Honda XR650R, KTM 250 XC-W
I like to call them "skid pads"!
Nov 25th 2019, 05:57 AM   #21
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  Jan 2016
  Beijing

  Honda CBF190R and Shineray X6
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Originally Posted by FeralRdr
That's our Galen. Surviving the madness of the Chinese Roundabout, and seeing the bright side of life.
Hey Greg, long time no see! I'm coming for a visit this summer
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Nov 25th 2019, 08:23 AM   #22
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2019 Nada
the dude who married my ex wife (heh) is a traffic engineer in olympia. he said the state likes the roundies because they eliminate t-bones. can't argue. still - makes you pay attention. i like the one in port orchard that already has tar snakes in it. real fun - off camber, often wet, and tar snakes. what could go wrong?
Nov 25th 2019, 09:03 AM   #23
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  Jan 2016
  Custer WA

  Aprilia Tuono 1100
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Originally Posted by Sentinel
the dude who married my ex wife (heh) is a traffic engineer in olympia. he said the state likes the roundies because they eliminate t-bones. can't argue. still - makes you pay attention. i like the one in port orchard that already has tar snakes in it. real fun - off camber, often wet, and tar snakes. what could go wrong?
Sounds like a good place to film a Ural commercial.

Nov 25th 2019, 10:23 AM   #24
 
  Jan 2016
  SE PDX

I was surprised to learn that roundabouts don't reduce the number of accidents, in fact they increase the number of accidents.

But the accidents are a much lower speed overall, so injuries are reduced,.

So that is how they are safer, more accidents, but much less severe, so fewer injuries.

Makes sense as you can't blow through them at full speed like some people do at intersections where they don't see the big red octagon.
Nov 25th 2019, 12:45 PM   #25
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  Jan 2016
  Washington County

  H-D
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Originally Posted by Dragon Rider
Makes sense as you can't blow through them at full speed like some people do at intersections where they don't see the big red octagon.
A good trade.
Nov 25th 2019, 12:59 PM   #26
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2019 Nada
whoolies right across the middle. they round-off those curbs for a reason, ya know. #liftofframp
Nov 25th 2019, 01:45 PM   #27
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  Jan 2016
  NW Oregon

  R1200ST, CB350
They also make it possible to do no-stop highway interchanges using maybe half the infrastructure, space and asphalt of a cloverleaf. The trick is you don't put the roundabouts directly in the path of the highways, but each highway has exit and entrance ramps leading to a pair of roundabouts, shared between them. One roundabout can handle all entrance and exit requirements of both highways in one direction each. You see this system used a lot in Europe and Asia. The negative is that it's somewhat more susceptible to congestion, since you're more likely to have to yield when the roundabout is busy.

Edited by WarpShatner7 on Nov 25th 2019 at 01:48 PM
Nov 25th 2019, 03:11 PM   #28
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2019 Nada
I'd like to see them install cellphone jammers at each roundabout.
just saying - safety first.
Nov 25th 2019, 03:50 PM   #29
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  Jan 2016
  Garden Home

  2012 Versys...'83 BMW R80 RT...Suzuki GS 450t
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Originally Posted by WarpShatner7
They also make it possible to do no-stop highway interchanges using maybe half the infrastructure, space and asphalt of a cloverleaf. The trick is you don't put the roundabouts directly in the path of the highways, but each highway has exit and entrance ramps leading to a pair of roundabouts, shared between them. One roundabout can handle all entrance and exit requirements of both highways in one direction each. You see this system used a lot in Europe and Asia. The negative is that it's somewhat more susceptible to congestion, since you're more likely to have to yield when the roundabout is busy.
I was living and traveling around New Hampshire in the early 70's...there were roundabouts all over...because they were common place everyone knew how to use them and there wasn't a big hassle at all...late at night they were great for high speed cornering..4 wheel drifting...looking on google maps most of them seem to be gone...it's a shame...
now they also had toll booths all over the place...seems you were paying 10-25 cents every ten miles at times...you "had to" carry change in your car or it was one big hassle...I shudder whenever I hear proposals that include tolls...you all in Washington let them in and they are starting to grow like all bad infections...
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Nov 30th 2019, 12:49 PM   #30
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  Jan 2016
  The Rider's Seat

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Originally Posted by galenernest
Hey Greg, long time no see! I'm coming for a visit this summer
Oh Wonderful!

Now I gotta plan a ride somewhere with a round-a-bout in it.





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