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Oct 16th 2019, 06:35 PM   #1
 Mikeames's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Blaine, WA

  2012 Yamaha FJR1300
Rules of the road in roundabouts....

http://https://www.wsdot.wa.gov/site...ish_040615.pdf

My Wife and I had a little incident with a guy I might loosely call a motorcyclist, mainly because he was driving a Can Am Spider. The three wheeled things.
Anyway we were driving my truck, towing the boat home from crabbing in Blaine, and had just pulled into one of the roundabouts on the North end of town. To be clear, we were IN the roundabout. Tricycle boy decides he belonged in that spot and from a stop, he pulled right out in front of me. I slammed on the brakes and slammed on the horn. Boy did that piss him off cause he then proceeded to putt through the rest of the roundabout and through the adjoining roundabout at about 5 mph laying on his brakes over and over. Eventually the asshat sped off toward the border, so I can assume he may have been from Canada and does not comprehend the concept of right of way, which I did and he clearly did not have. I yelled “you’re supposed to yield” at him and his response was “everyone is supposed to yield... Clearly he believes that everyone should yield to him, and he should yield to no one.
Don’t believe me? See the link above that repeatedly explains that traffic outside of the roundabout must always yield to traffic inside the roundabout. That’s why they put those weird triangle signs that say “YIELD” at every entrance. Maybe he speaks Canadian...
So this pleasant interaction inspired me to go online and make sure that I had not missed anything about Canadians not having to adhere to the basic rules of the road in the US, when so near their homeland. Nope, didn’t miss anything.
For the record, I’ve been an avid street rider for many decades on two wheels, and I have no issue with Canadians. Living so close to Canada, I ride with them often.
However this particular turd should be thankful that I have some self control and didn’t decide to us his tricycle as a speed bump.
I’m hoping maybe I’ll get lucky and he frequents these forums! Maybe he’ll learn something by clicking the link and seeing how it is spose to work.
If you’ve ever wondered what the real deal is with those funky roundabouts is, click the link and view a very informative pamphlet from WDMV.
I hope the link works, first time trying that on here.
Oct 16th 2019, 06:39 PM   #2
 Geoff4RFC's Avatar
 
  Sep 2019
  Ruston

Canadian bastards…...wait, I have some good friends from Canada.....bastards
Oct 16th 2019, 07:14 PM   #3
 Mikeames's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Blaine, WA

  2012 Yamaha FJR1300
Haha!
Again, nothing against the Canadians.
This guy was just one of those guys that feels everyone should yield to him, and that shit pisses me off. Especially when I have to slam on my brakes to keep from hitting one.
This incident may have even traumatized my recently acquired Dungeoness crabs! Shortly there after I was forced to end their suffering in a big kettle of boiling saltwater!
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Oct 16th 2019, 07:54 PM   #4
 WarpShatner7's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  NW Oregon

  R1200ST, CB350
People like that are the reason that roundabouts are relatively rare in the US, and some of those have STOP SIGNS (FFS) going in instead of yield signs, because the people using them demonstrated they can't cope. Particularly multilane ones, which are just a vast, insoluble mystery to American drivers.

That said, I was very happy to see that two traffic lights on WA-14 around Camas and Washougal have been removed and replaced with roundabouts, and yes, with yield signs. Huge improvement.
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Oct 16th 2019, 09:56 PM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
Roundabouts are now the go-to for WA state with all new construction or renovation, even on major highways. We have a couple of upcoming road constructions here in Belfair on HWY 3, one will be to add a new Mason Transit Park-n-ride and the other will to finally build the Belfair Bypass. With both situations the state has decided that they will be installing roundabouts rather than lighted intersections. So that will be three new roundabouts on Hwy 3 in less than 10 miles.

They are okay when they work, but horrible when they don't.
Oct 17th 2019, 06:27 AM   #6
 
  Apr 2017
  Seattle

  DL650A
Yielding is a judgement call, based on proximity. If you pull into the roundabout, it's perfectly reasonable for someone to pull in on the opposite side just after you because there is a lot of space and time between your vehicles. But if some asshat pulls into the roundabout right in front of you and forces you to slow down, clearly they should have yielded to you. I face these decisions many mornings on my daily commute.

But I don't honk at people, or flip them off, or brake check, etc. Too many idiots have guns these days, and want to use them. Life is too short to entice them into their Rambo/Dirty Harry fantasies.
Oct 17th 2019, 09:23 AM   #7
 curve addict's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Des Moines, WA

  ...1987 Yamaha FZR1000...
For my part, I like roundabouts. When used properly, they are safer and allow for smoother traffic flow than traffic light intersections. I think that, as more roundabouts are built, people will grow accustomed to them.

Some years ago, in a place called Cottonwood, Arizona, the first three or four roundabouts had just opened. I'd been enjoying a quiet morning on Mingus Mtn and was rolling back into town. I spotted it and braked before I entered the roundabout; an old, maroon Ford sedan had entered the circle the wrong way and stopped in front of me. I rolled up alongside the driver window of the car. A little, older woman was sitting there; she'd frozen-up.

I asked, "Are you all right?"

Her answer, "I've turned left here for over forty years. I didn't know what to do!"

I did my best to point her to safety and explain how the system works. Of course things could have been much worse. There was no other traffic, this time, so no harm done.
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Oct 17th 2019, 09:32 AM   #8
 1shinysideup's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  600RR
so you met the 1 rude person in Canada that can't drive/ride, buy a lotto ticket .

my neighborhood is littered with roundabouts, I like them, it's surprising how many people don't use them properly, yield to the left, no need to stop prior to entering (unless yielding) and, use your blinker when exiting.

Edited by 1shinysideup on Oct 17th 2019 at 03:16 PM Reason: Just learned how to write sentences
Oct 17th 2019, 02:13 PM   #9
 Tripledij's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Custer WA

  Aprilia Tuono 1100
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1shinysideup
so you not only met the 1 person in Canada that can't drive/ride, buy a lotto ticket ..

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Oct 17th 2019, 02:22 PM   #10
 
  Jan 2016
  Eagle, Idaho

  '19 Goldwing DCT
So you must not drive very often, it happens to me all the time. In fact I expect it on a regular basis. Get over it!
Oct 17th 2019, 06:13 PM   #11
 Geoff4RFC's Avatar
 
  Sep 2019
  Ruston

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeames
Haha!
Again, nothing against the Canadians.
yeah I hear you. I did have some great friends over the years of racing from up yonder.

Steve Dick would always bring me a case of Kokanee when they'd come down, before it was available here.

Steve Crevier would always give me encouragement before he went off and hit the big time.

Steve McKissock (RIP) was a great party buddy at the year end banquets.

Tom Walther (RIP) was also good for some on track education.

Back in the day we had the CanAm series and it always made for some very intense racing!
Oct 17th 2019, 08:47 PM   #12
 Mikeames's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Blaine, WA

  2012 Yamaha FJR1300
I like the roundabouts. They move traffic much faster then almost any other intersection. They’re only a problem when someone doesn’t get it, hence the posting of the WDMV pamphlet. I think if I can help even one person figure it out then I’ve helped many others out that might have had to deal with them.
Oct 17th 2019, 09:32 PM   #13
 cgt1229's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Bellingham

  Suzuki
Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC
yeah I hear you. I did have some great friends over the years of racing from up yonder.

Steve Dick would always bring me a case of Kokanee when they'd come down, before it was available here.

Steve Crevier would always give me encouragement before he went off and hit the big time.

Steve McKissock (RIP) was a great party buddy at the year end banquets.

Tom Walther (RIP) was also good for some on track education.

Back in the day we had the CanAm series and it always made for some very intense racing!
What about Darryl Fletcher, Robbie Much, Gary Goodfellow & Michel Mercier?
No Kokanees or Labatt's from them?

At the Northwest roundabout in Bellingham right off I-5, I had a lady in a car clearly looking at me, I thought we made eye contact, pull into the circle I was already in, she gave a huff or disapproval as she failed to yield and almost ran me over. She wanted me to "check up" at her mistake but I didn't, so I hope she might pay attention more next time.
Oct 18th 2019, 04:55 PM   #14
 Geoff4RFC's Avatar
 
  Sep 2019
  Ruston

Quote:
Originally Posted by cgt1229
What about Darryl Fletcher, Robbie Much, Gary Goodfellow & Michel Mercier?
No Kokanees or Labatt's from them?
Lol, yes, I knew how those boys were, just didn't get the chance to associate with them. I started (racing) in October of '85 then full seasons after that. Gary Goodfellow was a big name at SIR during that time as was Darryl Fletcher. I think Much and Mercier were on their way to the big time.....

Ha, you must be an old timer like me
Oct 18th 2019, 11:35 PM   #15
 cgt1229's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Bellingham

  Suzuki
Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff4RFC
Ha, you must be an old timer like me
Just a spectator, witnessing some fine racing at Westwood, back in the early 80's.

More than "half way there" at 54. Semi fossilized.
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