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Nov 6th 2018, 10:48 PM   #16
 Dash Riprock's Avatar
 
  Apr 2018
  N Idaho

  Yamaha 650
No tell us more! I love hearing people pontificate from cities where kids can’t play in the park without fear of a needle stick or stepping in human waste.
Nov 6th 2018, 11:52 PM   #17
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
If you think that is an accurate description of sleepy Portland, I can understand finally how Trump is able to pull the strings of his base through absurdly fraudulent fears.
Nov 7th 2018, 12:44 AM   #18
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  Jan 2016
  Washington County

  H-D
Oh for crap's sake, move the political discussion to the lounge. This is a motorcycle forum and this thread was about the rise of an old Brit brand under a new flag in India. Ride your damn bike and enjoy the experience. Talk about positives and negatives of different brands, different routes, different gear. Complain about clueless drivers...or riders for that matter.

I'm hopeful that you voted for the candidates and legislation that fits your social vision. Pat yourself on the back because surely you made a difference. Unicorns and rainbows abound.

Interesting history on the British bikes. The prominent stand-alones were Triumph, Norton, Villiers, Royal Enfield, and BSA. The first four ended up joining forces until their ship (much like car manufacturer BMC) went tits up. Triumph successfully was reborn. Norton is still trying to have a go with its third (I think) iteration. Enfield is reborn in India. BSA and Villiers are memories. These are my recollections of the brands. I raced and rode BSA and Triumph. Some good memories and some not so much. Just like politics, no?
Nov 7th 2018, 04:20 AM   #19
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
I wish the journalist would have explored what was behind the adoration of the Enfield with this coming-of-age demographic. Because Enfield represents British colonialism as much as just about anything. There must be some nostalgia involved, just as there is with our love of Harley, Triumph, Norton. But in those cases, the nostalgia is associated with iconic working class heroes or rebels like Teddy Boys, greasers, Hells Angels, rock-n-rollers—freedom-loving characters of our imagination. Desiring an iconic object of former foreign oppression calls for deeper inquiry.
Nov 7th 2018, 06:58 AM   #20
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  Jan 2016
  Washington County

  H-D
I give up.
Nov 7th 2018, 07:49 AM   #21
 Nathan's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  space needle

lmao
Nov 7th 2018, 08:18 AM   #22
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
The fencer doesn’t really like sparring all that much.
Nov 7th 2018, 10:25 AM   #23
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  Feb 2016
  Seattle

I think the ubiquity of information and entertainment has in a sense undermined our desire to explore. Why bother having an experience when you can sit at home and watch a better version of that thing in 4K from a couch without any effort?

I think a lot of the current romanticism for old fashioned machines is nostalgia for a time when the frontiers were tangible. It may not strictly make sense, if you want to truly do some overland trekking buy a BMW GS, or better yet any actual SUV. But we have explored and documented every corner of the world, and so exploration is more of a mindset, than an activity.

I want to expand the boundaries of my worldview, but I haven’t the time or money to dedicate fully to such an endeavor (nobody really does anymore) so instead I’ll kind of dress up like an explorer and live as such for a few fleeting moments, before heading back to the office Monday morning and finishing those TPS reports.

And speaking of...
Nov 7th 2018, 04:16 PM   #24
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  Apr 2018
  N Idaho

  Yamaha 650
Quote:
If you think that is an accurate description of sleepy Portland, I can understand finally how Trump is able to pull the strings of his base through absurdly fraudulent fears.
It took me a while to see this comment because my tin foil hat slipped and covered my eyes.

Sorry 307T couldn't resist, but I get your point.

It may be as simple as India having hipsters now too. And that was not a shot at PDX, although it could be, I have been to The One show.
Nov 7th 2018, 04:53 PM   #25
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  Jan 2016
  Garden Home

  2012 Versys...'83 BMW R80 RT...Suzuki GS 450t
aannnnddd add this to the pile of retro bikes...

https://www.kawasaki.com/motorcycle/...SAAEgLn9_D_BwE

Nov 7th 2018, 11:54 PM   #26
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  Jan 2016
  SeaTac

I think Royal Enfield is the oldest continuously manufactured motorcycle in the world if I am not mistaken. India has been making them for a long time. This is not a 'new' thing for them. I always liked the BSA's but had (have?) a friend (hey Ralph!) back in the late '60's or early '70's that lost the bottom end on his 'at speed' on the fairly new (back then) Hy 167 in Kent. If he had not been a flat track racer I am not sure he would have been able to ride it down like he did. The skid mark was impressive. They were kind of known for doing that if you pushed them hard.
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