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Nov 23rd 2017, 08:53 AM   #1
 VeritasImageryNW's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
Rip

Sad to hear. And another rider gone because of riding too fast on the highway.

South Kitsap motorcyclist critically injured in Purdy crash dies
Nov 23rd 2017, 09:10 AM   #2
 Sentinel's Avatar
 
  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
that picture of the bike - those cables along the median. like they purposefully intended to install something that would strangle/slice a rider who happened to touch them. I look at those things all the time and shake my head. wtf?

I pulled a similar stunt once in San Diego when I was in the navy in the '80's. I slid across three lanes of traffic and bounced off the median barrier and ended up laying down in the fast lane, almost "out" but not quite. couldn't move due to the bonk I'd received.

some dude stopped and dragged me toward the center, out of the lane, and covered me with a blanket because he saw the crash and he _knew_ I was dead.

the EMT's came and when they opened the visor of my helmet the guy says "Hey. This guy's not dead."

dangerous shit we do sometimes. I feel especially for the drivers who hit him. what a shit thing to have happen to you, that thump under the car and the bounce when you go over the body. fuck that.

I hit a bigass rabbit one time out in the California desert jut this side of Susanville. early morning, still dark, fucker ran out of a campground area and went right under my bike and the swingarm and rear wheel went over him. he was as big as a Labrador retriever. it gave me a sick feeling in my stomach. and cleaning the blood and guts and fur off my bike was sucky.

sigh.

Edited by Sentinel on Nov 23rd 2017 at 09:12 AM
Nov 23rd 2017, 09:39 AM   #3
 unicykle's Avatar
 
  Sep 2017
  milwaukie oregon

  rc51 Aprilia rsv
Can happen to the best of us, itís a risk we all take every time we get on a bike
RIP
Nov 23rd 2017, 09:39 AM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  Spokane Wa/Knoxville Tn

  2007 BMW F800S. 1999 ATK 605ESDS Sumo
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Originally Posted by Sentinel
that picture of the bike - those cables along the median. like they purposefully intended to install something that would strangle/slice a rider who happened to touch them. I look at those things all the time and shake my head. wtf?

sigh.

When they first started installing them many years ago I emailed the DOT regarding their safety for motorcycles and how it's probably more dangerous for them. They responded that motorcycle accidents on the highway are rare enough to where it didn't matter and wasn't worth studying....
Nov 23rd 2017, 10:31 AM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Spanaway

I saw a Harley on highway 512 tangled up in those cables, the bike was actually suspended by the cables off the ground, EMT was there and one body was covered up. There were 2 bikes I could make out at the time.
Nov 23rd 2017, 10:41 AM   #6
 VeritasImageryNW's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Allyn, WA

  '06 HD Street Bob, '85 Yamaha FJ600, '99 Honda CBR600f4
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Originally Posted by unicykle
Can happen to the best of us, itís a risk we all take every time we get on a bike
RIP
True, but we can reduce that risk by not riding beyond the conditions.

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Nov 23rd 2017, 12:28 PM   #7
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  Jan 2016
  Custer, WA

  Suzuki 09 GSXR 1000 Suzuki 09 DRZ 400SM 1970 Yamaha 250 DT1 Enduro
So sad when a fellow rider is longer with us
RIP fellow rider
Nov 24th 2017, 12:33 PM   #8
 Chrishil54's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Kirkland

  V-Star 1100 Custom
RIP rider and my heart goes out to his family in this time of sorrow.
Nov 24th 2017, 04:23 PM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Triumph Street Twin
RIP rider, my heart goes to the family and friends...
Nov 24th 2017, 06:57 PM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  Northeast Olalla

  07 Guzzi
RIP rider

Quote:
Originally Posted by avboden
When they first started installing them many years ago I emailed the DOT regarding their safety for motorcycles and how it's probably more dangerous for them. They responded that motorcycle accidents on the highway are rare enough to where it didn't matter and wasn't worth studying....
And that is the brutal truth of what we face when we address many of the policy issues where the motorcycle numbers are "statistically miniscule." When I first got involved with the push back against these "cheese cutter" barriers back in the '90s that was the rationale we received, and continue to receive to the present.

Some of our research seemed to point at federal dollars being made available for the installation of the wire barriers.
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Nov 24th 2017, 11:59 PM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  Hazel Dell, Wa

  Honda VFR800, Husqvarna TE 610, Ducati Hypermotard 1100S
The cheese slicers were installed on I-205 from around Powell in PDX to Wilsonville as well as hwy 26 westbound from Beaverton this past year. Now they're on all the outer freeways in the PDX metro area and beyond. They make me cringe, especially the ones past Sandy on hwy 26 where you're riding about 20' away from them if you're in the LH lane.
Nov 25th 2017, 12:57 AM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  Washington County

  H-D
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Originally Posted by Texasl
And that is the brutal truth of what we face when we address many of the policy issues where the motorcycle numbers are "statistically miniscule."
Prayers for the comfort of the rider's family and friends after this horrible incident.
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Disclaimer: I have no data nor official quotes to back up my hypothesis.

There have been a significant number of stories in local media about people killed on OR 26 near Welches and I-5 south of Portland in head on collisions due to "cross overs." The death of the husband of Amanda Fritz was widely and repeatedly reported. ODOT (or some similar body) determined that the cables were an inexpensive, quick and effective solution to the problem. I agree that the "statistically miniscule" number of motorcycles affected was likely a box checked off nonchalantly by some bureaucrats in the finance department.

That said, did the media ever report on whether or not the cabling was a contributing factor to the rider's fatality?
Nov 25th 2017, 01:54 AM   #13
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  Jan 2016
  Rome

  SV650S, CRF450R, and others
Quote:
Originally Posted by avboden
When they first started installing them many years ago I emailed the DOT regarding their safety for motorcycles and how it's probably more dangerous for them. They responded that motorcycle accidents on the highway are rare enough to where it didn't matter and wasn't worth studying....
I registered my disapproval with the DOT when they started installing median cable slicers in Bellingham. I told them the cables were lethal to motorcyclists and would certainly kill if hit. He told me it was for the cars and the motorcycles in effect didn't matter. I told him at least with concrete barriers motorcyclists have a chance...
Nov 25th 2017, 07:49 AM   #14
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  Jun 2016
  Poor Tortured

  2015 Kawasaki Concours 14 - The Origame Sea-Dragon
not to jack a thread, but this points out a truth we often forget - the government is not your friend, your nanny, your mom and dad. It is a device to control your behavior and your thoughts, and to get you to do what it wants, and nothing more.

your job is to do what you are told and then stfu and get to work.

this is one reason they dislike riders so much - riders are fuck-you types who color outside of the lines. that makes them dangerous.

of course, sometimes we are dangerous to ourselves. but hey, life's a risk. might as well haul-ass.

this is why, sometimes, that certain tree requires refreshment.


Edited by Sentinel on Nov 25th 2017 at 07:56 AM
Nov 26th 2017, 06:05 AM   #15
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  Jan 2016
  Northeast Olalla

  07 Guzzi
Quote:
Originally Posted by 307T
That said, did the media ever report on whether or not the cabling was a contributing factor to the rider's fatality?
I never saw any follow up information, but knowing the area, I really doubt that the retention system was contributory, especially since the rider was run over by traffic after "losing control" and crashing. There is a wide sweeping entrance ramp, two lanes, and an 8-10 foot set back to the wire system.
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