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Nov 17th 2016, 08:07 AM   #1
 FZ1Mike's Avatar
 
  Sep 2016
  Kenmore

  2005 Fz1 The Fazer
Remove center stand. Fz1

Is there any reason why not To lose an extra five pounds? I know I'll have to buy or make a stand for working on the bike. But that doesn't concern me.
Nov 17th 2016, 08:25 AM   #2
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  Jan 2016
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i leave mine on because its far more convenient than not having it. weight savings isn't a thing that matters on these bikes.
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Nov 17th 2016, 08:27 AM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  Buckley

  BMW R1100S '98 HD FXD 08 CBR600RR-track
1. Stability when parked in public.

2. Easy to service the chain.

3. Easy to clean the rear rim and inspect the tire.

4. Bikes seem to take up less space when on the center stand.

5. You really think you need the bike to be lighter?

I could go on.

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Nov 17th 2016, 10:16 AM   #4
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon

  2017 Kaw Ninja 1000 ABS (Z1000SX)
You could always just lose 5 lbs yourself and accomplish the same thing.
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Nov 17th 2016, 11:07 AM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  space needle

Quote:
Originally Posted by FZ1Mike
Is there any reason why not To lose an extra five pounds? I know I'll have to buy or make a stand for working on the bike. But that doesn't concern me.
other than making roadside chain lubing awkward, No.

I had a mini-panic upon discovering that my 1200 doesn't come w a centerstand. I very quickly got used to it and now prefer bikes without a centerstand. Besides losing the extra weight you'll lose those ugly chunks of metal sticking out from under the bike.

together with a lightweight battery upgrade you can lose up to 20# altogether which is a damn nice weight loss if you ask me.
Nov 17th 2016, 01:13 PM   #6
 FZ1Mike's Avatar
 
  Sep 2016
  Kenmore

  2005 Fz1 The Fazer
Quote:
Originally Posted by motoman
You could always just lose 5 lbs yourself and accomplish the same thing.
I've tried. Trust me I've tried.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan
you'll lose those ugly chunks of metal sticking out from under the bike.
That's a big one for me too.
Nov 17th 2016, 07:26 PM   #7
 
  Jun 2016
  Portland area

I use a home depot turn buckle in lieu of a center stand. I bolt the eye to the swing arm and crank the rear wheel up. I use a comealong for tire changes.

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Nov 17th 2016, 10:58 PM   #8
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  Jan 2016
  Bremerton

  '12 Concours14, '08 GSX1300R, '06 GSX-R 750
Are you trying to set land speed records? Are you a world class Moto GP racer looking to shave 0.0000000001 seconds off your lap times? Is there any actually legitimate reason you think you need to remove 5 lbs from your bike that makes it worth it?

Ima go with no to all of those.

You're riding a 1000 cc detuned R1, not a 50 cc Zuma scooter. Thone few lbs are so low to the ground it makes no difference in the bikes handling and so light it doesn't affect acceleration or braking. Why remove it?

Same thing with the battery mentioned above. If you're not dropping significant weight like changing an exhaust system will do, leave it alone.

I have had center stands on all by 2 of my bikes. I took the one off my Busa because it was cumbersome to use and almost useless. It sacked to lube the chain when on the road. I wouldn't even think about pulling the stands off my Triumph or Conny.

Edited by Pavement Tested on Nov 17th 2016 at 11:01 PM
Nov 18th 2016, 04:57 AM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  WA

  Lowrider S
The center stand on mine is one of the most useful things I've ever had on it. Much easier working on a bike that's standing up right verse leaning over. Clear access to the wheels, no stand in the back or front to get in the way of walking around it. Made it way easier to take off the rear wheel. Changing the sprocket would have sucked without it. Same for the stator and all that noise.

Only reason I'd loose mine would be to throw on a Magical Racing bellypan, love the look of that on a Gen2, yet the stand has proven itself too useful.

I'm not seeing it helping anything to remove it. Course if you want to, have at it.
Nov 18th 2016, 06:21 AM   #10
 
  Jan 2016
  Lynnwood WA

  2007 Yamaha FZ6, 2008 Aprilia Tuono & 2009 Yamaha WR250R
If you decide to remove it, keep it for if/when you sell your bike. My FZ6 didn't come with one (unfortunately I didn't notice when I bought it), so I had to go to FleaBay and pick one up.
Nov 18th 2016, 06:24 AM   #11
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  Jan 2016
  Stumpy Puddleton

  R1200ST, CB350
I bought a V-Strom in '07 and a center stand (SW-Motech) was one of the first things I added to it. But in practice the only thing I ever use a center stand for is servicing the bike, particularly the chain. I suppose I can imagine circumstances where I would use it out in the world but in practice I never do.

I never leave it parked it on the center stand, particularly if not at home, because it raises the center of gravity and the support triangle is too narrow: in short, it's less stable and I will never choose less stable over more stable. So in retrospect a garage stand would have done me just as well.

But on the other hand, I agree with other posters that unless you're going to the track a lot or it's an incredibly bad design that hits the pavement before you're in full lean, you're not really going to gain much by removing it and the fact is that even if you replace it with a paddock stand for your garage, you just might miss it one day, when on a weekend trip, visiting friends, at a tech day or have an issue by the side of the road.
Nov 18th 2016, 08:34 AM   #12
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  Jan 2016
  Richland

  Yamaha FZ1, KTM Super Duke GT, Yamaha FJR, Yamaha XS650
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarpShatner7
I bought a V-Strom in '07 and a center stand (SW-Motech) was one of the first things I added to it. But in practice the only thing I ever use a center stand for is servicing the bike, particularly the chain. I suppose I can imagine circumstances where I would use it out in the world but in practice I never do.

I never leave it parked it on the center stand, particularly if not at home, because it raises the center of gravity and the support triangle is too narrow: in short, it's less stable and I will never choose less stable over more stable. So in retrospect a garage stand would have done me just as well.

But on the other hand, I agree with other posters that unless you're going to the track a lot or it's an incredibly bad design that hits the pavement before you're in full lean, you're not really going to gain much by removing it and the fact is that even if you replace it with a paddock stand for your garage, you just might miss it one day, when on a weekend trip, visiting friends, at a tech day or have an issue by the side of the road.
I can tell you for sure that it does not hit the pavement on the FZ1. The footpegs hit first, then the brake and shift levers.
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Nov 18th 2016, 08:48 AM   #13
 FZ1Mike's Avatar
 
  Sep 2016
  Kenmore

  2005 Fz1 The Fazer
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavement Tested
Are you trying to set land speed records? Are you a world class Moto GP racer looking to shave 0.0000000001 seconds off your lap times? Is there any actually legitimate reason you think you need to remove 5 lbs from your bike that makes it worth it?

Ima go with no to all of those.

You're riding a 1000 cc detuned R1, not a 50 cc Zuma scooter. Thone few lbs are so low to the ground it makes no difference in the bikes handling and so light it doesn't affect acceleration or braking. Why remove it?

Same thing with the battery mentioned above. If you're not dropping significant weight like changing an exhaust system will do, leave it alone.

I have had center stands on all by 2 of my bikes. I took the one off my Busa because it was cumbersome to use and almost useless. It sacked to lube the chain when on the road. I wouldn't even think about pulling the stands off my Triumph or Conny.

So what your saying is that I should lose the center stand get a lighter battery AND remove the tool kit for my bike and I should be able to win the MotoGP?
Nov 18th 2016, 08:50 AM   #14
 FZ1Mike's Avatar
 
  Sep 2016
  Kenmore

  2005 Fz1 The Fazer
And we don't like that term detuned. It's such a vulgar word. The proper term is retune dfor real word performance
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Nov 18th 2016, 11:54 AM   #15
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  Jan 2016
  Moses Lake, WA

  2013 Kawasaki Concours C-14, 2005 ZX-10R Kawasaki (Nekkid), '99 Yamaha TW-200
I can't stand this thread...

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