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Mar 22nd 2016, 08:36 PM   #1
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  bicicleta
PSA:Be careful if you can't see far ahead of you

Shouldn't have to be said, but if you are scooting around and you can't see far ahead of you for whatever reason, like a vehicle blocking your view, bushes, or whatever. Then adjust the speed your speed accordingly and don't assume it'll be clear

Reason I say this is because I had a close call on my commute to work. Was probably going a little under 10 above the speed limit and ignored the corner speed sign. A dump truck was in a driveway blocking my view of the road ahead. Conveniently there was a truck pulling his trailer out that I wasn't able to see. Pulled in clutch and used front brake, defiantly a wake up call to do some more hard practice stops in parking lots using rear brake because I forgot to use it. Obviously wasn't the safest as it was an area with a lot of driveways. Lesson learned...
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Mar 22nd 2016, 09:54 PM   #2
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  all of them
Its interesting the way we all perceive things differently. If I was to provide a play by play of your "close call" you didn't forget to do anything.

I see a motorcycle rider operating their bike on a damp secondary road. Something happens in front of them requiring them to brake. They brake. Their technique is extremely poor and makes an otherwise routine situation a "close call".

In other words, the rider remembered to brake but their braking needs some work.

Sorry op that's my take!

imo, braking is the #1 thing to be good at when operating a bike. Given that... why complicate it by having to "remember" to step on that pedal when braking? A right hand squeeze and right foot stomp should be instinctual.

There are situations requiring only front or only rear. Like stoppies. Or kicking the back end out to impress your friends. The overwhelming majority of all situations requiring braking are better served with both ends of the bike contributing. It's only logical that both brakes are the "default" setting.
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Mar 23rd 2016, 03:55 AM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  Northeast Olalla

  07 Guzzi
I'm going to agree (mostly) with Red Label Moto here. My only differentiation would be the bike placement upon rounding the curve so deeply to the right, even when the garbage truck was obscuring the entire view ahead. That seriously closed up the view.

That being said, I'm glad that the situation was merely a "learning experience" and not something worse.
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Mar 23rd 2016, 05:52 AM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  bicicleta
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Originally Posted by Red Label Moto
Its interesting the way we all perceive things differently. If I was to provide a play by play of your "close call" you didn't forget to do anything.

I see a motorcycle rider operating their bike on a damp secondary road. Something happens in front of them requiring them to brake. They brake. Their technique is extremely poor and makes an otherwise routine situation a "close call".

In other words, the rider remembered to brake but their braking needs some work.

Sorry op that's my take!

imo, braking is the #1 thing to be good at when operating a bike. Given that... why complicate it by having to "remember" to step on that pedal when braking? A right hand squeeze and right foot stomp should be instinctual.

There are situations requiring only front or only rear. Like stoppies. Or kicking the back end out to impress your friends. The overwhelming majority of all situations requiring braking are better served with both ends of the bike contributing. It's only logical that both brakes are the "default" setting.
Don't be sorry, I appreciate the feedback. It is a close call, but it was one that was completely avoidable on my part. With proper braking, a safer speed, and better lane position, I would have been in a very different situation. Its just a wake-up call for many things.
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Mar 23rd 2016, 06:01 AM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Custer WA

  Aprilia Tuono 1100
Your limited but direct commentary almost made me spit coffee on my keyboard.

Thanks for the laugh.
Mar 23rd 2016, 06:47 AM   #6
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  Feb 2016
  Rent'n

  2002 Honda RC51, 2005 Honda RC51
It is obvious that it was/is trash day.

As I watched for the first time I would have laid off the throttle when I saw the trash rig. That was this first thing my eyes went to and then the other cars in the left lane looked like a metal shit sandwich about to happen.

It was hard to tell if you reduced speed.

And for the record, as @RedLabelMoto called out, I am a both break instinctual rider.

Cheers
Mar 23rd 2016, 08:46 AM   #7
 
  Feb 2016
  Oregon

Thanks for sharing the reminder and the video backup @Pigs.


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Mar 23rd 2016, 04:35 PM   #8
 
  Jan 2016
  Bothell, WA

Thank you for the reminder. Glad you are still riding!
Mar 23rd 2016, 05:56 PM   #9
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Aprilia Scarabeo
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Originally Posted by Red Label Moto
imo, braking is the #1 thing to be good at when operating a bike. Given that... why complicate it by having to "remember" to step on that pedal when braking? A right hand squeeze and right foot stomp should be instinctual.
Didn't OP suggested to remember to practice more braking, rather than to remember to brake properly during an ooopsie moment?
Mar 23rd 2016, 06:10 PM   #10
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  Jan 2016
  Beaverton

  With a grin on my face
Thanks for the post op. Some good feedback from others about lane position, anticipating a problem due to limited visibility, and especially braking. Glad we learned from your mistake and not from a "had to lay her down" post. Ride on my brudda, ride on!
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