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Jun 3rd 2016, 07:28 AM   #1
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  Jan 2016
  Salem, Oregon

  Cbr600rr and cbr1000rr
Thumbs up New Vid: Talk about 5 bad riding habits

Hey folks,

Made a new video. In this one I talk about my worst 5 riding habits. It felt so weird to talk on camera I may never do it again.



Thanks for checking it out. Have a great day, safe rides!
Jun 3rd 2016, 02:00 PM   #2
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  '14 St3R, '05 DR650
In my opinion, your braking "bad habits" aren't bad habits at all. Engine braking is actually good for your engine, and using only the rear brake is fine as long as you don't override your instincts to use both brakes in an emergency situation.
Jun 3rd 2016, 02:12 PM   #3
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  Jan 2016
  Salem, Oregon

  Cbr600rr and cbr1000rr
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In my opinion, your braking "bad habits" aren't bad habits at all. Engine braking is actually good for your engine, and using only the rear brake is fine as long as you don't override your instincts to use both brakes in an emergency situation.
I've never heard of it being good for an engine. On that bike engine braking is really effective.
Jun 3rd 2016, 03:25 PM   #4
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  Jan 2016
  PDX

  '14 St3R, '05 DR650
OK, maybe calling it "good" is a stretch, but your engine was designed to engine brake, after all.

If you picture a 4-stroke engine full intake/exhaust cycle, all that's happening is you're giving the engine less air/fuel so the power stroke is less powerful. This causes the piston to move slower, which turns the crankshaft slower, which slows the vehicle down.

Obviously this puts a ton of forces on the engine, but likely a lot less than actually accelerating the engine.

I can't find anything on Google that backs up the claim that engine braking is bad for four strokes. This stackexchange discussion seems to think there's nothing bad about it. Wikipedia claims it's bad for two strokes on the basis that lubrication comes in with the fuel, so if you cut off the fuel, you cut off the lubrication, which makes sense - but I bet it's not awful if you make a point of keeping a small amount of throttle on while engine braking.
Jun 3rd 2016, 03:50 PM   #5
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  Jan 2016
  Salem, Oregon

  Cbr600rr and cbr1000rr
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Originally Posted by wooden
OK, maybe calling it "good" is a stretch, but your engine was designed to engine brake, after all.

If you picture a 4-stroke engine full intake/exhaust cycle, all that's happening is you're giving the engine less air/fuel so the power stroke is less powerful. This causes the piston to move slower, which turns the crankshaft slower, which slows the vehicle down.

Obviously this puts a ton of forces on the engine, but likely a lot less than actually accelerating the engine.

I can't find anything on Google that backs up the claim that engine braking is bad for four strokes. This stackexchange discussion seems to think there's nothing bad about it. Wikipedia claims it's bad for two strokes on the basis that lubrication comes in with the fuel, so if you cut off the fuel, you cut off the lubrication, which makes sense - but I bet it's not awful if you make a point of keeping a small amount of throttle on while engine braking.
I admit to not making it a habbit to leave some throttle going. I will to start with but then I roll all the way off.
Jun 3rd 2016, 04:32 PM   #6
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  Jan 2016
  Portland

  bicicleta
My biggest concern with engine braking is it doesn't turn on the brake lights which could mean trouble if there is an inattentive(unattentive?) driver behind you. Obviously, touch the brakes when slowing down to make the brake lights glow
Jun 3rd 2016, 05:13 PM   #7
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  Jan 2016
  Salem, Oregon

  Cbr600rr and cbr1000rr
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My biggest concern with engine braking is it doesn't turn on the brake lights which could mean trouble if there is an inattentive(unattentive?) driver behind you. Obviously, touch the brakes when slowing down to make the brake lights glow
I like your thinking. Risk certainly increases without tapping.
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