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Jun 21st 2017, 11:02 AM   #31
 DocB's Avatar
 
  Feb 2016
  Poulsbo, WA

  Aprilia RSV Mille, CB77, CB750K, CB750F
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you trained your dog to paint it for you? ;P
Jun 21st 2017, 11:58 AM   #32
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  Jan 2016
  space needle

LOL





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Originally Posted by DocB
I'm sure it's very good stuff, even though I can't find any info on what is actually in it. I will give it a try. My only concern is that "Honey" probably = beeswax. If so, putting that on leather before trying to redye it might be problematic.
'honey' refers to the consistency of the liquid not beeswax

I totally soaked my suit with it before the redye and didn't have a problem with it, but I did let it sit for at least three weeks before painting it.

check out its reviews on amazon there's a bunch of them. It's the most popular leather conditioner they have.

Edited by Nathan on Jun 22nd 2017 at 07:26 AM
Jun 22nd 2017, 08:28 PM   #33
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  Feb 2016
  Poulsbo, WA

  Aprilia RSV Mille, CB77, CB750K, CB750F
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I totally soaked my suit with it before the redye and didn't have a problem with it, but I did let it sit for at least three weeks before painting it.
Pics or it didn't happen.
Jun 26th 2017, 01:17 PM   #34
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  Jan 2016
  space needle

I was gonna go with a red, white, blue theme on black but after trying it on in 70* temps I quickly decided it was in my best interest to stick with white and leave the original colored panels as they are since they're in great condition with a very nice patina.
This pic shows before|after:
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Jun 26th 2017, 04:06 PM   #35
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  Feb 2016
  Poulsbo, WA

  Aprilia RSV Mille, CB77, CB750K, CB750F
Looks great! How many coats of white did you have to put on? I'm laying on white over deep purple, to make a basecoat for some neon colors. On coat three and still not there yet. Hoping coat #4 will end up opaque enough to work.
Jun 27th 2017, 07:37 AM   #36
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  Jan 2016
  space needle

three coats was enough for the faded white areas but the dark scuffed areas needed five coats.
Jun 27th 2017, 11:39 AM   #37
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  Feb 2016
  Poulsbo, WA

  Aprilia RSV Mille, CB77, CB750K, CB750F
Sounds about like what I have experienced. Tried to get away with three coats of white over some patches that were cream colored, but the background wasn't even enough and some darker spots show through the yellow top coat. Do over time. I thought airbrushing would be the solution when I did my Dainese suit, but even over that I ended up brushing on the final couple of coats anyway. Black over black looks great after just one coat, more often than not.
Jun 28th 2017, 10:43 PM   #38
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  Feb 2016
  Poulsbo, WA

  Aprilia RSV Mille, CB77, CB750K, CB750F
Here's an update. Base coats are nearly complete, there's just a bit of black left to do on the front side. That's roughly 5-6 coats of white over what were the dark maroonish purple areas. One interesting discovery was that the black leather paint did a much better job of recoloring the stretch kevlar panels than the Rit synthetic fabric dye. The panels still looked faded after the Rit, so I dry brushed flat black leather paint on them. Worked a treat. Once the black is finished up I will start to work on my new finish idea over the white areas.


A little reminder of the before:

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Jul 2nd 2017, 08:11 PM   #39
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  Feb 2016
  Poulsbo, WA

  Aprilia RSV Mille, CB77, CB750K, CB750F
Ended up with an average of six coats of white base coat. Today I laid on two coats of neon yellow, as consistently as possible to avoid streaks. Finally got a decent daylight LED bulb overhead to give more accurate color to these pics. Next step will be a new adventure...if it turns out OK I'll post a pic.



before


Edited by DocB on Jul 2nd 2017 at 08:15 PM
Jul 5th 2017, 08:48 AM   #40
 
  Feb 2017
  Poulsbo

  2013 Ducati Diavel Carbon Red
This is so awesome! It looks amazing.
Jul 5th 2017, 10:18 PM   #41
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  Feb 2016
  Poulsbo, WA

  Aprilia RSV Mille, CB77, CB750K, CB750F
I'm a little hesitant to post this because I think I like it, but I'm not 100% sure. There were enough sort of uneven and bumpy looking repair spots in the finish that I felt there needed to be some visual texture that would hide the rough surface. I did a whole bunch of test panels with various spattered, stamped and sponged patterns and colors. And I liked a different one every time I looked at them. My image uploader seems to destroy the color palette. It's a really deep black and bright neon yellow in person.

While the solid black areas of the suit have been done in flat black to play down the painted-over scuffs, I used a semi gloss black for this texture to give it maximum contrast with the yellow. It's a little difficult to figure what you are looking at with this tight shot. This is the back. The paint goes on fairly thick, so I will have to do a section at a time and then wait for it to dry overnight. The white stripes next to the yellow triangles will get a reflective silver tape covering as the final step. I'm reserving my final judgment until I get the whole job done, but I think this just might work.
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Jul 6th 2017, 08:56 PM   #42
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  Feb 2016
  Poulsbo, WA

  Aprilia RSV Mille, CB77, CB750K, CB750F
Took the day off and attempted a completion marathon. Almost made it. Just need to replace the knee puck Velcro and put on the sealer coat. In the end I am pretty happy. I told my wife it was somewhere between cool and insane, which was maybe the right place to be. This shot is under daylight LEDs with with flash fill to show the iron on reflective tape I applied to the little stripe next to each triangle. Once again, the actual color is way more vibrant than this compressed image.


a before reminder -



Trying it on today I have to say the armor feels pretty darned stout with great coverage. I'd model it but my old white guy gut is kind of embarrassing to show off in this thing. Aside from the snug fit in the middle I think it's overall just a hair on the big/tall size for me (I tend to fit US42 or US44 with lots of armor). I'm 5'9" and I'm guessing this could fit someone up to 6' or taller. Combining that slightly loose fit with the fact that I don't have more standard out style boots anymore - this suit has standard tapered zipper open legs without any extra stretch panels for in style boots - I'm thinking this one is for sale. Should make for a pretty outstanding track day or race suit, and it's got major visibility for the street, both day and night.

And here is how it looks in more shaded outdoor light. Gets more green as the light gets more blue in shadows and under clouds. This has flash fill again, to set off the reflectors.



To recap -
cleaned exterior with vinegar, interior with alcohol.
zippers cleaned and lubed
leather conditioned with Lexol. Much discussion of people's favorite conditioner ensued.
surfaces prepped for acrylic dye with acetone.
Loose stitches and tear in stretch kevlar repaired with Dyneema or kevlar thread. Two tiny holes in leather repaired with Dyneema thread and urethane. Two thin areas built back up with urethane.
stretch kevlar panels redyed with Rit synthetic dye, then redone with black leather dye.
six coats of white base coat laid on all areas getting neon yellow.
three coats neon yellow, applied with care to assure an even coat.
flat black applied to existing black panels
semi gloss black sponged over neon yellow.
iron on reflective tape applied to stripes and given extra heat with heat gun to improve adhesion
split seams in liner repaired.
Clear coat to be applied and velcro knee puck panels to be replaced.
Jul 10th 2017, 02:18 PM   #43
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  Apr 2016
  Renton

You might even call it... dazzling.

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Jul 10th 2017, 04:14 PM   #44
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  Feb 2016
  Poulsbo, WA

  Aprilia RSV Mille, CB77, CB750K, CB750F
What ship? I just see some water and a dock.

Here's another Doc. Maybe not quite as dazzling when worn? Well, maybe just because I can't see it when I'm wearing it. My son saw the pic and said "So, did you run into any aliens up there?"

Once I put in all the armor it actually fits well and is pretty comfortable. I'm kinda starting to get the whole Vanson thang.

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Jul 11th 2017, 02:46 PM   #45
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  Jan 2016
  space needle

Thumbs up! Taking the time repair an old suit is a good deal considering the quality of the leather and what the new suits are going for. Can look up how much you save here: Vanson Repairs.
but it sure is a lot of work! And the sewing can get a bit bloody too if you are new at it LOL
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