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Nov 9th 2017, 05:13 PM   #31
 Transported's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
The Z1 was the most fierce bike of its time. Now it is brought back as a sort of pussycat .

A case of history repeating itself twice: once as tragedy and the second time as farce.
Nov 9th 2017, 09:42 PM   #32
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Triumph Street Twin
110HP is nothing to sneeze on.
Nov 13th 2017, 10:06 AM   #33
 HalcyonSon's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Renton

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Originally Posted by GPD323
Between the RS and Honda I'll take the RS. Most of the naked new bikes are all about sharp pointy shape contours. I don't like them. The FZ10 being one of them.

I really like RS, the rounded corners and profile, nice to look at from all directions.
The FZ10 is a bike I would like to see dressed up as a simple standard without the spacey stuff. That thing is awesome.
Nov 15th 2017, 04:06 PM   #34
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  Apr 2016
  My Garage

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Originally Posted by liberpolly
Sometimes "retro" is the return to the good but forgotten principles but on the new technological level. Look at them as naked bikes with relaxed ergos, and it begins to make sense. The round headlights are just a bat-signal of "I am easy and fun to ride".
.....can also be said of the rider.....
Nov 15th 2017, 06:33 PM   #35
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Triumph Street Twin
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Originally Posted by Dubnut
.....can also be said of the rider.....
Hahahaha... for sure!
Nov 17th 2017, 09:02 AM   #36
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon

  2017 Kaw Ninja 1000 ABS (Z1000SX)
Screw Retro.

I'll take the Z900 in sport bike form any day. Handling, function, riding position, gauges, etc. all superior.

If you want retro buy a Triumph. Or a Moto Guzzi. Or a Harley.
Nov 17th 2017, 02:05 PM   #37
 FeralRdr's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Adjacent to the Hobbit Garage

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Originally Posted by HalcyonSon
The FZ10 is a bike I would like to see dressed up as a simple standard without the spacey stuff. That thing is awesome.
Careful what you wish for...



This one's on its way to becoming a Goldwind. Just needs the cup holder, stereo, and a nice reverse gear.
Nov 20th 2017, 09:39 AM   #38
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  Apr 2016
  Renton

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Originally Posted by motoman
Screw Retro.

I'll take the Z900 in sport bike form any day. Handling, function, riding position, gauges, etc. all superior.

If you want retro buy a Triumph. Or a Moto Guzzi. Or a Harley.
There's a big difference between a modern sport naked with a few retro styling cues and a "heritage" bike like a Harley. The Z900 isn't really a sport bike either. The ZX-10R fills that spot.

I see nothing wrong with taking a sporty standard and throwing a flat seat and analog gauges on it. That's all they're changing at this point. Biggest difference I see on the Z is that the RS doesn't crush your balls on the tank, and there's more room for a passenger because they tweaked the subframe.
It still has modern suspension, modern engine, modern electronics, modern brakes... Hell, the Z900RS gets radial brakes which is an upgrade from the Z900. It even has a gear indicator in between those analog dials.

Triumph's Speed/Street Triples sit right in the middle of the sport standard area. Not quite spaceship toy, not quite retro. Modern guts, minimal plastic, and until the latest generation, round headlights. It's a good place to be. Yamaha realizes this also.
https://www.cycleworld.com/2018-yama...st-ride-review
Nov 20th 2017, 12:56 PM   #39
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Triumph Street Twin
Quote:
Originally Posted by motoman
Screw Retro.

I'll take the Z900 in sport bike form any day. Handling, function, riding position, gauges, etc. all superior.
Doubt it.
Nov 28th 2017, 07:13 PM   #40
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  Mar 2016
  North of CDA

  KTM 950 Super Enduro, Honda XR 650R
Z900RSPegs

Cpt awesome, have you ever moved footpegs on a Japanese bike? Maybe some are easy but most can't be moved because of linkages for brakes and shifters, master cylinders, brake hoses, brackets that can not be moved. I know HDs can be moved around, some Vstroms with a kit but most are not.
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