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Nov 9th 2017, 06:13 PM   #31
 Transported's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Portland

  2006 FZ1, 1999 R1
The Z1 was the most fierce bike of its time. Now it is brought back as a sort of pussycat .

A case of history repeating itself twice: once as tragedy and the second time as farce.
Nov 9th 2017, 10:42 PM   #32
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Aprilia Scarabeo
110HP is nothing to sneeze on.
Nov 13th 2017, 11:06 AM   #33
 HalcyonSon's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Renton

Quote:
Originally Posted by GPD323
Between the RS and Honda I'll take the RS. Most of the naked new bikes are all about sharp pointy shape contours. I don't like them. The FZ10 being one of them.

I really like RS, the rounded corners and profile, nice to look at from all directions.
The FZ10 is a bike I would like to see dressed up as a simple standard without the spacey stuff. That thing is awesome.
Nov 15th 2017, 05:06 PM   #34
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  Apr 2016
  My Garage

Quote:
Originally Posted by liberpolly
Sometimes "retro" is the return to the good but forgotten principles but on the new technological level. Look at them as naked bikes with relaxed ergos, and it begins to make sense. The round headlights are just a bat-signal of "I am easy and fun to ride".
.....can also be said of the rider.....
Nov 15th 2017, 07:33 PM   #35
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Aprilia Scarabeo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubnut
.....can also be said of the rider.....
Hahahaha... for sure!
Nov 17th 2017, 10:02 AM   #36
 
  Jan 2016
  Oregon

  2017 Kaw Ninja 1000 ABS (Z1000SX)
Screw Retro.

I'll take the Z900 in sport bike form any day. Handling, function, riding position, gauges, etc. all superior.

If you want retro buy a Triumph. Or a Moto Guzzi. Or a Harley.
Nov 17th 2017, 03:05 PM   #37
 FeralRdr's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  Adjacent to the Hobbit Garage

Quote:
Originally Posted by HalcyonSon
The FZ10 is a bike I would like to see dressed up as a simple standard without the spacey stuff. That thing is awesome.
Careful what you wish for...



This one's on its way to becoming a Goldwind. Just needs the cup holder, stereo, and a nice reverse gear.
Nov 20th 2017, 10:39 AM   #38
 HalcyonSon's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Renton

Quote:
Originally Posted by motoman
Screw Retro.

I'll take the Z900 in sport bike form any day. Handling, function, riding position, gauges, etc. all superior.

If you want retro buy a Triumph. Or a Moto Guzzi. Or a Harley.
There's a big difference between a modern sport naked with a few retro styling cues and a "heritage" bike like a Harley. The Z900 isn't really a sport bike either. The ZX-10R fills that spot.

I see nothing wrong with taking a sporty standard and throwing a flat seat and analog gauges on it. That's all they're changing at this point. Biggest difference I see on the Z is that the RS doesn't crush your balls on the tank, and there's more room for a passenger because they tweaked the subframe.
It still has modern suspension, modern engine, modern electronics, modern brakes... Hell, the Z900RS gets radial brakes which is an upgrade from the Z900. It even has a gear indicator in between those analog dials.

Triumph's Speed/Street Triples sit right in the middle of the sport standard area. Not quite spaceship toy, not quite retro. Modern guts, minimal plastic, and until the latest generation, round headlights. It's a good place to be. Yamaha realizes this also.
https://www.cycleworld.com/2018-yama...st-ride-review
Nov 20th 2017, 01:56 PM   #39
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  Jan 2016
  Seattle

  Ducati Diavel, Aprilia Scarabeo
Quote:
Originally Posted by motoman
Screw Retro.

I'll take the Z900 in sport bike form any day. Handling, function, riding position, gauges, etc. all superior.
Doubt it.
Nov 28th 2017, 08:13 PM   #40
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  Mar 2016
  North of CDA

  KTM 950 Super Enduro, Honda XR 650R
Z900RSPegs

Cpt awesome, have you ever moved footpegs on a Japanese bike? Maybe some are easy but most can't be moved because of linkages for brakes and shifters, master cylinders, brake hoses, brackets that can not be moved. I know HDs can be moved around, some Vstroms with a kit but most are not.
Jul 31st 2018, 11:50 AM   #41
 HalcyonSon's Avatar
 
  Apr 2016
  Renton

An interesting comparison.

1972 Kawasaki Z1 900 vs 2018 Z900 RS Spec Chart Shootout!

My favorite part echoes my experience with a 70's Kawasaki:

Quote:
Youíd definitely be able to tell the difference between the old engine and the new one from the saddle, but those differences wouldnít be as fundamental as the ones youíd feel between old and new chassis. In addition to its stiffer frame, the new bikeís inverted fork, ďhorizontal back linkĒ rear suspension, and modern radial tires all work together to make those under age 40 feel like something fundamental is wrong when they climb on a bike like an old Z1. Did somebody forget to tighten something? Did somebody forget to tighten several things?
Jul 31st 2018, 01:22 PM   #42
 Nathan's Avatar
 
  Jan 2016
  space needle

full system streetmeg & DJ power commander now available from Brock's

https://brocksperformance.com/dynoje...v-z900rs-2018/

https://brocksperformance.com/street...i-z900rs-2018/



they did a lot of work with the tuning but not much info has been released yet. I'm guessing an extra @20hp and @20lbs lighter


Edit: Instagram link to video where Brock talks about the tuning w Don Guhl - https://www.instagram.com/p/BjNeJAOl...-by=brocksperf
The pipes were just released, more detailed info should follow soon...

Edited by Nathan on Jul 31st 2018 at 05:06 PM
Jul 31st 2018, 05:22 PM   #43
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  Jan 2016
  Washington County

  H-D
"Old Ass Baby Boomer" here. I like bikes that you can actually SEE the engine, there are spokes and carbs. But, in deference to my age, an electric starter is nice. Oh, and discs. Standard seating too please; I don't do the "jockey-on-a-fence-rail" anymore. The thing about motorcycling these days is that there are plenty of choices for any preference.
Jul 31st 2018, 06:01 PM   #44
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  Apr 2016
  PDX

  2018 Kawasaki Z900RS
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan
full system streetmeg & DJ power commander now available from..

2WheelDynoworks also has ecu flashes set up for a bunch of header/can combos. Just FYI; not suggesting thatís a superior option to Brockís, although it was for me bc I donít like megaphone cans.

Bike is great without any of that, but itís downright killer after a flash with new exhaust system.



Sent via iPad
Jul 31st 2018, 06:21 PM   #45
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  Jan 2016
  Spanaway

Quote:
Originally Posted by Halbie
2WheelDynoworks also has ecu flashes set up for a bunch of header/can combos. Just FYI; not suggesting thatís a superior option to Brockís, although it was for me bc I donít like megaphone cans.

Bike is great without any of that, but itís downright killer after a flash with new exhaust system.



Sent via iPad
Power Commanders are old school. A real ECU flash on new bikes are state of the art especially if the tuner has done their homework.
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